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Sep 29 2020 09:48am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 29 2020 10:46am)
Australian professor of law or Thor79iq

Easy choice for who’d if consider a better authority


Not often you see a textbook example of a fallacy used right in front of you. Unless this professor is specifically at a professor of law about Nobel Peace prizes
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Sep 29 2020 09:57am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 29 2020 10:01am)
:rofl:

Insanely ignorant.

Trump upped Obamas drone campaign by a factor of 4, killed a general of an adversarial state, and has done nothing but yoyo troop levels in the middle east.

Literally none of what he said is true.

Thanks for the TDS emotional take, I’m sure we’ll take your word over the four Australian law professors.
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Sep 29 2020 09:57am
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Not often you see a textbook example of a fallacy used right in front of you. Unless this professor is specifically at a professor of law about Nobel Peace prizes


A scientific mind considers the authority of the source. Below is this professors bio, now feel free to post yours so we can judge who's in a better position to judge.

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Former Chairman of the Australian Broadcasting Authority, Professor David Flint has published numerous journals, articles and books on a range of subjects including international economic law, education, the English language, media law and ethics, freedom of speech, human rights and constitutional law and change.

Professor Flint was Chairman of the Australian Broadcasting Authority from 1997 to 2004, Chairman of the Australian Press Council from 1987 to 1997, and Associate Commissioner for the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission from 1998 to 2004.

He is currently Chairman of the Executive Council of World Association of Press Councils (1992- ); National Convenor, Australians for Constitutional Monarchy (1999- ); President, English Speaking Union NSW Branch (2001- ); Emeritus Professor, University of Technology Sydney (1999); Visiting Professor, Faculty of Law, UWS Macarthur 1998- ); National President (Australia), World Jurists Association (1995- ); Vice-President, International Law Association (Australian Branch) (1997- ); Consulting Editor, Australian International Law Journal (1994- ); Solicitor of the Supreme Court, NSW, (1962- ), England and Wales (1966- ).

His previous appointments include: Convenor, Committee of Australian Law Deans (1989-1993); Dean of Law, University of Technology, Sydney (1987-1996); Director of Studies, International Law Association (Australia & New Zealand branch) (1991-1997); Editor, Australian International Law News (1983-1994); Vice-Chairman Alliance Francaise de Sydney (1983-1984); Member, International Legal Services Council (1990-1996) and Chairman, Prayer Book Society NSW Branch (1998 - 2004).

From 1987-1997, he was the Dean of Law at the University of Technology Sydney. He was also part of the committee to introduce the LLB programme (1976); administered the Faculty of Business and School of Marketing (1978); and was a Member of Council, Member Committee of Review from 1984 to 1986.

During his time as Dean of Law the following programs and initiatives were introduced: Twelve months teaching through Summer and Winter programmes for non-lawyers; the first Australian professional doctorate, the SJD; the first Australian university programmes in Alternative Dispute Resolution; the first Australian offshore units in foreign law schools within law programmes; the incorporation of Practical Legal training into the LL.B, and the introduction of AUSTLII giving open internet access to Australian statute and case law.

A prolific writer, David has published numerous books, publications and articles including The Twilight of The Elites (2003).

In 1991, David was honoured as World Outstanding Legal Scholar by the World Jurists Association. In 1995 he was made a Member of the Order of Australia (AM).
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Sep 29 2020 10:01am
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A scientific mind considers the authority of the source. Below is this professors bio, now feel free to post yours so we can judge who's in a better position to judge.


The most important thing for a scientific mind is the content of the claims.

The content of his claims is easily debunked, and as for him being an authority, he doesn't seem to be, based on what you posted, any authority on the Nobel Peace Prize.

You're doing what creationists do. Throwing out a bunch of qualifications that might be impressive, but are ultimately wholly unrelated to the question at hand. "Look at this Ph.D engineer who says evolution doesn't exist!", but nothing they have done qualifies them to talk about evolution.
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Sep 29 2020 10:07am
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The most important thing for a scientific mind is the content of the claims.

The content of his claims is easily debunked, and as for him being an authority, he doesn't seem to be, based on what you posted, any authority on the Nobel Peace Prize.

You're doing what creationists do. Throwing out a bunch of qualifications that might be impressive, but are ultimately wholly unrelated to the question at hand. "Look at this Ph.D engineer who says evolution doesn't exist!", but nothing they have done qualifies them to talk about evolution.


I'm going to need to see your sources for 'easily debunked'. At least this professor has a laundry list of accomplishments. Flippantly discarding his point of view by just saying it's ignorant is not a scientific opinion a scientific mind should care about. Like I said, feel free to post your bio that would give credence to your take.

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Sep 29 2020 10:27am
lmfao at thor questioning any other science professional when he himself exists only to be a drain on taxpayer dollars, which fund his tiny little lab in the middle of nowhere. the place which he tortures mice for some ‘research’

he is actually upset that a terrorist was taken out by our military. it’s sad our taxpayer dollars support total wastes of pale pasty privileged lefties like this little fella “thor” but that’s just a testament to how strong our country really can be

e: inb4 some repressed frustrated homophobic innuendo from the little fella

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Sep 29 2020 10:30am
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I'm going to need to see your sources for 'easily debunked'. At least this professor has a laundry list of accomplishments. Flippantly discarding his point of view by just saying it's ignorant is not a scientific opinion a scientific mind should care about. Like I said, feel free to post your bio that would give credence to your take.


You can fact check me if you want lol.

We're still in those "endless wars", Trump escalated with Iran, and has performed several times more drone strikes than Obama did.



Just gonna say it again so maybe it sinks in. His bio is not what determines if you should accept his take. It's irrelevant to if the claims he makes are true or not. Scientists do not default to authority, in fact it's usually just ignored when the claims are published. When it was my PI's turn to present papers he'd make a point to pick a really dumb paper that got published from a really good lab in our field, and he'd explain why it's dumb and how it only got published because it's from a big name lab.
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Sep 29 2020 10:32am
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You can fact check me if you want lol.

We're still in those "endless wars", Trump escalated with Iran, and has performed several times more drone strikes than Obama did.



Just gonna say it again so maybe it sinks in. His bio is not what determines if you should accept his take. It's irrelevant to if the claims he makes are true or not. Scientists do not default to authority, in fact it's usually just ignored when the claims are published. When it was my PI's turn to present papers he'd make a point to pick a really dumb paper that got published from a really good lab in our field, and he'd explain why it's dumb and how it only got published because it's from a big name lab.


>You could fact check me calling someone ignorant.

ok
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Sep 29 2020 10:37am
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>You could fact check me calling someone ignorant.

ok


Yes, because I made very specific claims about how he is wrong.
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Sep 29 2020 10:40am
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lmfao at thor questioning any other science professional when he himself exists only to be a drain on taxpayer dollars, which fund his tiny little lab in the middle of nowhere. the place which he tortures mice for some ‘research’

he is actually upset that a terrorist was taken out by our military. it’s sad our taxpayer dollars support total wastes of pale pasty privileged lefties like this little fella “thor” but that’s just a testament to how strong our country really can be

e: inb4 some repressed frustrated homophobic innuendo from the little fella


I love how he brings creationists into it. Totally legit.

"We know the universe couldn't have been created!" "How?" "Evolution and the big bang!" "So where'd everything the big bang originated from come from, and could a creator be smart enough to create a scenario where life happens and things evolve?" "Science denier!" "Wut?"

I think part of the problem is assuming Thor has a scientific mind. He's so absolutely certain of what he believes that I tend to think the level of skepticism needed to accept true science is beyond him.

Example: One of Trump's investments pays off, they figure out how to create a power source that can power the entire planet for the next million years, with no emissions or environmental downside whatsoever, that a monkey in a suit can operate. All drilling, fracking, nuclear plants, etc. etc. all over the world can be shut down. Trump organization sells source for $2, claiming they "Just want to help the planet." Would Thor rejoice that the climate is saved, praise Trump for his devotion to the planet, or claim some conspiracy that they'd probably been sitting on it for decades?
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