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Cnn/nyslimes headline: police official encourages reckless violence against peaceful protesters looking for bread in suburbs

I approve of this

Democrats fault that police kill blacks.

Jesus christ.



He is fleeing a scene where a man was shot in the head, on video. No clear shooter and a lot of people with guns running around. Dude almost got lynched.

Anarchy burger, hold the goverent please.

It's no wonder you guys never get anything done, you can't even identify the problem.

the rioter peaceful protester that was screaming racial slurs and then got shot is a pale pasty privileged lefty, of course

so its pretty clear from the video the second shooting was absolutely self-defense, still haven't gotten firm details on the first one, but the way the kid was trying to escape and surrender the whole time makes it likely
which sets us up for our next legal drama

what will happen when the immediate chaos ends and we wind up with prosecutors being asked to go after the 17 year old kid
because Wisconsin like Minnesota is a duty to retreat state, but we saw in a similar BLM rally shooting with no deaths that someone could get convicted and imprisoned for 15 years even if he was clearly being attacked while retreating, because the prosecutors argued that by bringing weapons to a rally in the first place he created the risk of a deadly confrontation and negated his right to self-defense. That was the scarsella trial, and they only convicted him because they were able to introduce obviously prejudicial evidence of him posting on 4chan and racist quotes, and jurors afterwards openly stated that they were biased against him and wouldn't "let him get away with it like zimmerman".
Now this one poses another pickle. Lets say we find out as appears to be the case that the guy wasn't a right-wing troll but rather a libertarian out to defend businesses while supporting BLM. And in this case, the self-defense at least in the second shooting is beyond doubt since the guy chasing and tackling him had a pistol- again still hypothetical on the first case

because if that becomes the crux of the case, this might hinge upon the right of a citizenry to defend themselves and their community proactively during a riot in which the state has abdicated its responsibility to keep the peace
under the legal argument in the minnesota shooting, prosecutors could say that the person bringing the guns is seeking a conflict and creating the foreseeable danger, a provocation in an otherwise peaceful scenario
but in this case, he brought his guns to protect people's homes and businesses while violent rioters torched buildings and attacked people
He didn't stay home and defend only his own castle and use his guns purely defensively, he was proactive in protecting his community

maybe I'm inserting too much speculation over the facts but this could be where we're headed

lol who concocted this BS. stinks of some narc crap. i'm minding my own business walking down the sidewalk and some peaceful protester(s) comes up and starts screaming at me and i have the duty to retreat?

in states with duty to retreat laws, you can't legally claim self defense if you knowingly put yourself into a foreseeable and avoidable violent confrontation. If you are minding your business walking down the sidewalk and get confronted by some hooligans with weapons who are threatening you, you're legally obligated to try to try to leave the area. If you stand your ground and they escalate by attacking you and you defend yourself, you can be charged with murder as if you were the one attacking them. The duty to retreat only applies when you can escape with yourself and companions- you must at least have an opportunity- only if you could have reasonably foreseen that things would turn violent, and not within your own home, at least in any of the other 49 states than maybe commiefornia

So that's why I'd be interested in what legal precedent could be set for the failure of a state to protect its citizens. How can the state tell its citizens they have a duty to retreat from each other's homes and businesses and let the police keep the peace, if the police aren't keeping the peace? If theres no national guard out there to quell the riots, rooftop korean LARPers like this guy are the only thing standing between the violent mob and the innocent victims. I feel like the culpability of society should negate his criminal liability.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Aug 26 2020 09:56am

Damn shit went mild to wild last night

Holy shit America is fucked up.

A 17 yo can't buy himself a beer, but apparently they can LARP tacticool police units and walk around with semi-auto rifles without repercussion.

Jesus Christ.