Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 1 2019 11:51am)
Indeed they are. Do you deny that government provided infrastructure isn't directly responsible for corporate profits? May I direct you to our interstate highway systems and the profit margins of every single corporation that ships goods on them? Our railways? Our rivers and ocean ports?
The government is in fact the largest driver of GDP. This is scientific fact.
It's also bullshit. Taking money out of the economy only to put it back into the economy does not a good use of money make.
Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 1 2019 12:13pm)
Let's take that a step further and call out why they want a wall and strict immigration laws.
It's not to stop illegal immigration. They don't want that. It's to make it even more illegal and more difficult so they, conservatives and their wealthy business owner buddies, can hire terrified low-wage workers at cut rate prices.
Republican voters who actually believe a wall will stop a single illegal worker from being hired by a Republican business owner are morons.
That doesn't even make sense. In an environment like now, with more jobs than workers, diminishing the labor pool even further drives wages up as employers are forced to compete for scarce labor.
Quote (Handcuffs @ Oct 1 2019 02:29pm)
It's not about whether they do or don't. Even if they ended up contributing only $1 total, to not include it in the calculations is the result of intention bias and results in skewed data.
I fail to understand why future contributions should be counted in current cost/benefit analysis.
Quote (Skinned @ Oct 1 2019 02:39pm)
Due to the need of there being a well regulated militia. We have a professional military now. Says the United States army is the well regulated militia are they the ones who have the right to bear arms now?
It's better to take the words for what they mean than start interpreting what we think they mean, going back to my original point.
You say the founding fathers meant slaves and not Mexicans and I say the founding fathers meant muskets and not machine guns.
The thing here is, my positions on both the 2nd and 14th are grammatically correct. Your positions are both wrong.
It is redundant to state "All persons born or naturalized in the United States AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside" if "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" simply means they are subject to our laws. It would be no different than stating "All persons born or naturalized in
the United States our jurisdiction and subject to
the our jurisdiction
thereof, are citizens of
the United States and of the State those jurisdictions wherein they reside." No, what they are indeed saying is "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and
subject to the jurisdiction thereof don't owe their allegiance to a foreign jurisdiction, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." Indians owed their allegiance to their tribes, so while they were born in "our jurisdiction," they were not subjects of it. Quite clearly, the founders did NOT grant outright birthright citizenship.
Additionally, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" was written precisely because they did not want a standing army (i.e. what we now have), which spreads American imperialism all over the world in true King George III fashion. We were to be defended by the collective efforts of the people themselves, and that cannot be effected without assuring that they had access to modern weapons with which to stand against those who would use them against us. Everyone has the right. It says so right in the amendment. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. It doesn't say the right of the militia. It's amazing how people try to pretend all these rights limiting the power of the government to harm the people protect the individual, unless it's the 2A.
Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 1 2019 06:41pm)
Indeed. The people; without qualification. Mexican immigrants, Antifa, Black Panthers, Muslims, trade unionists. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Yes please. #blackgunsmatter
This post was edited by Santara on Oct 1 2019 08:34pm