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Jun 12 2016 03:26pm
Quote (dro94 @ Jun 12 2016 04:14pm)
I agree in some respects but I was more highlighting the contrast in her opinions on jsp and those on her youtube videos - not the nature or specifics of those opinions


Her opinions she displays on youtube have always been her opinions since ive known her (even before youtube). I dont know what youre talking about.
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Jun 12 2016 03:29pm
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Her opinions she displays on youtube have always been her opinions since ive known her (even before youtube). I dont know what youre talking about.


Idk why he's even talking about it at all. Seems to have a bug up his ass.
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Jun 12 2016 03:35pm
Quote (Shakti @ Jun 12 2016 10:26pm)
Her opinions she displays on youtube have always been her opinions since ive known her (even before youtube). I dont know what youre talking about.


I wouldn't expect you to reply with anything different

Quote (Scaly @ Jun 12 2016 10:29pm)
Idk why he's even talking about it at all. Seems to have a bug up his ass.


Saw him reading the thread - also saw churchgirl video on the massacre and was a little surprised with the harshness of criticism towards Islam. "incompatible with western society" iirc. I saw this as being at odds with the churchgirl on jsp that would chastise people who attempted to paint a religion, minority or gender with the same brush.

But I also think churchy is smart and knows exactly what she is doing
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Jun 12 2016 03:40pm
Quote (dro94 @ Jun 12 2016 09:35pm)
I wouldn't expect you to reply with anything different



Saw him reading the thread - also saw churchgirl video on the massacre and was a little surprised with the harshness of criticism towards Islam. "incompatible with western society" iirc. I saw this as being at odds with the churchgirl on jsp that would chastise people who attempted to paint a religion, minority or gender with the same brush.

But I also think churchy is smart and knows exactly what she is doing


He is on youtube. He will say whatever gets clicks just like the rest of them.
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Jun 12 2016 05:21pm
I love how this thread has devolved into a dick measuring, I'm sorry, IQ measuring contest with a little partisan politics from both sides.

A "wall" wouldn't have stopped or prevented this tragedy, the perpetrator was a United States citizen. A law a biding citizen with a concealed weapon wouldn't have stopped it as you can't legally carry in an establishment who's primary business is the dispensement of alcoholic beverages under Florida law. I don't know if anything could have prevented it.

This is the real world kiddos, there are bad people in it that want to do bad things. They come in all genders, races, religions, nations, and they want to kill or hurt people of all genders, races, religions, nations and they really don't care about collateral damage. You can try to ban guns or severely restrict guns like they've done in the EU where there is still gun violence or have a pretty pro gun nation like the United States where there is still gun violence it honestly makes no difference except in the United States there is a much greater chance of a good guy having a gun close to where the bad guy's are.

The solution of making all Muslims carry a special ID isn't the right one, we would be just taking a step back to where jews had to wear a yellow Star of David on their clothing and couldn't do certain jobs, had to live in certain places, and where eventually rounded up and put into death camps because they posed a "threat" to a nation. There are plenty of innocent Muslims that are just as appalled at this act of violence.

What needs to happen is ALL threats of violence need to be taken seriously, more seriously than they are now to the point where you threaten to shoot people then you go to jail, period. I also believe conceal carry laws should be changed to allow more access for citizens to carry in more places. I also think people who are eligible should take the class and get a concealed license and carry. I believe that every school should have an armed school resource officer or an armed security guard on site every day while school is in session.


Again RIP to the victims and their friends/families.

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Jun 12 2016 05:35pm
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This is the real world kiddos, there are bad people in it that want to do bad things. They come in all genders, races, religions, nations, and they want to kill or hurt people of all genders, races, religions, nations and they really don't care about collateral damage. You can try to ban guns or severely restrict guns like they've done in the EU where there is still gun violence or have a pretty pro gun nation like the United States where there is still gun violence it honestly makes no difference except in the United States there is a much greater chance of a good guy having a gun close to where the bad guy's are.


It actually does make a difference, no matter where you are the more guns are available the higher the instance of gun violence, which results in a worse outcome than other forms of violence.
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Jun 12 2016 05:46pm
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It actually does make a difference, no matter where you are the more guns are available the higher the instance of gun violence, which results in a worse outcome than other forms of violence.


tell me how that worked out in Paris where they used full automatic AK-47's which are illegal for citizens to possess?
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Jun 12 2016 07:08pm
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tell me how that worked out in Paris where they used full automatic AK-47's which are illegal for citizens to possess?


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Jun 12 2016 08:08pm
Quote (tman65ky @ 12 Jun 2016 23:46)
tell me how that worked out in Paris where they used full automatic AK-47's which are illegal for citizens to possess?


Works out pretty well. That happened once in like... 100 years. In the US it's like once every month. Sometimes more.
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Jun 12 2016 08:26pm
Gun control won't significantly impede terrorist attacks whether domestic or foreign launched. It will greatly reduce general gun violence and homicide rates.
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