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Mar 21 2016 12:56am
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Mar 21 2016 12:54am)
His point is "Everyone should kowtow to my definitions of what constitutes real science because I want my ego to be important without having to go into all that pesky 'Knowing what I'm talking about.'"

Just based on what I'm reading at least, idk man. Just trying to help.


It was very disappointing last semester to learn we can only solve the Schrödinger equation exactly for one electron, one nucleus systems :(. Everything after that requires qualitative assessment ("chemical intuition " is what they will call it), and huge simplifications in the calculations to get a reasonable model wave function.
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Mar 21 2016 01:05am
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So are a lot of things that a large percentage of humans have experienced for thousands of years.


The bubonic plague and a whole bunch of other nasty diseases have been experienced by a large percentage of humans back in the day. That is no excuse. Besides, the history of collective mental health is difficult to verify.


Medicalization aside, assuming spanking creates more negative mental states in an individual, whichcan at worst interfer with the person's quality of life, you'd still not oppose it?
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Mar 21 2016 01:26am
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It was very disappointing last semester to learn we can only solve the Schrödinger equation exactly for one electron, one nucleus systems :(. Everything after that requires qualitative assessment ("chemical intuition " is what they will call it), and huge simplifications in the calculations to get a reasonable model wave function.


I thought you were further along in your studies than that.
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Mar 21 2016 07:37am
Yes the ham beasts need to be shamed. They need to be reminded that they are disgusting every day. There is no excuse for being morbidly obese aside from a couple legit medical conditions, which very few fat people have. It makes me physically sick to see fat people. I was hanging out with a friend the other day and he just happens to be dating a fat girl, she said she was hungry and i had just bought some girl scout cookies. I offered her a sleeve of them, she got so fucking happy she started clapping and said "yay cookies i love cookies" it was the happiest id ever seen a person. And 20 minutes later she had food delivered and the exact same thing happened. I had to get out of there it was the most disgusting thing ive ever seen. If it weren't for my friend i would have told her how i felt.

Cut calories
Do light cardio
Lose weight.
Its really that easy.
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Mar 21 2016 07:42am
Fat people are disgusting.
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Mar 21 2016 08:55am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Mar 21 2016 01:26am)
I thought you were further along in your studies than that.


I'm doing a masters and hadn't taken big boy physical chemistry yet. I've only got two classes left then it's all research. I knew we had to make simplifications to do computational problems, but I didn't know it was because it was impossible to get exact solutions.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 21 2016 07:55am)
I'm doing a masters and hadn't taken big boy physical chemistry yet. I've only got two classes left then it's all research. I knew we had to make simplifications to do computational problems, but I didn't know it was because it was impossible to get exact solutions.


You didn't take any modern physics classes? I had to take that my sophomore year for a degree in computer engineering. I had previously learned it in high school chemistry, but at the very least I'd have figured it would come up in a physics class...
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Mar 21 2016 10:14am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Mar 21 2016 09:43am)
You didn't take any modern physics classes? I had to take that my sophomore year for a degree in computer engineering. I had previously learned it in high school chemistry, but at the very least I'd have figured it would come up in a physics class...


I only had to take physics 2, electromagnetic force, lenses, etc. I did biochemistry so more of a biology focus.
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Mar 21 2016 10:16am
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Mar 21 2016 12:54am)
His point is "Everyone should kowtow to my definitions of what constitutes real science because I want my ego to be important without having to go into all that pesky 'Knowing what I'm talking about.'"

Just based on what I'm reading at least, idk man. Just trying to help.


"my definitions" :bonk:

I'm hardly the first person in the world to call social sciences a soft science rooted in subjective nonsense instead of objective fact.
Are you naively ignorant enough to be unaware of this, or willfully so out of denial?
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Mar 21 2016 10:47am
Quote (bogie160 @ Mar 20 2016 08:38pm)
There are healthy and unhealthy lifestyles. We understandably criticize smoking, we should understandably criticize overeating. I'm not sure overt shaming helps, but we clearly need to discourage behavior that significantly increases mortality. Acting like everything is ok is not the solution.


I completely agree with this, there is a balance that needs to be held between helpful criticism & discouragement but also understanding and respecting people who aren't necessarily at the dangerous end of obesity and are happy with holding an extra <50 lbs.

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Mar 20 2016 06:47pm)
...not only did you totally miss the sarcasm but you went on to blame misinformation for what is clearly an emotional disorder .


Actually there's a lot of evidence linking obesity to sugar intake, meaning the intake of refined sugars are the primary and main cause of obesity. There is also plenty of evidence that shows sugar forms physical addictions that can be measured by biologists & physiologists.

Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Mar 20 2016 07:29pm)
...we don't shame cancer patients into chemotherapy .


Wrong again. Some people actually do; if you look at the growing number of individuals who self medicate for cancer by using cannabis oils and so on, usually via the use of it on children, you can easily find the ignorant bigots who are practically attempting to shame them into using the 'conventional' methods of treatments (chemotherapy & radiation).
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