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Jan 25 2015 08:27pm
Quote (carteblanche @ Jan 25 2015 08:42pm)
why would i kill my playmate? keep him locked in the basement. :evil:


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To the people talking about shooting people in the legs in a legal self-defense situation, from a legal perspective the reason why its a bad idea is because shooting somebody in the foot is just as legal as shooting them 4 times in the chest or head. Once you pull the trigger, you are using lethal force. Whether or not you kill them, doesn't make a difference is the eyes of the law. This is why police shoot to kill - because they can. It makes the legal process cheaper, faster, and much more defensible when you dont have a living person to testify against you. If you really cant stand the thought of killing a person, you could choose to just shoot them in the knee, but you're going to have a harder time proving that your actions were in self defense. If you had the leisure to aim at their knee (and possibly miss), it appear that you didn't really have to need use deadly force in the first place.



I'm honestly having trouble understanding what you are trying to say. Could you possibly rephrase that and indicate what law makes that scenario legal? My intent is only to point out what is legal and what isn't legal. If its legal to point a gun at somebody in your state without shooting them, then it is news to me and I'd really appreciate it if you could alleviate of my ignorance on the issue by telling me about that law. I know in some states its legal to shoot an unarmed intruder on sight and I'm not sure what gun brandishing laws apply in those situations. But to my understanding, pointing a gun at somebody is never legal unless you shoot them.


I'm not talking about logic or opinions. I'm only talking about the law. If you want to make any posts regarding laws, I'd be interested in hearing them. But so far you haven't said anything about legalities and your insults are also irrelevant to the matter.


please show me the LAW where brandashing a gun at someone but not shooting them in a situation where you claim to fear for your life. Show me that case.
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Jan 26 2015 12:46am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 25 2015 07:40pm)
please show me the LAW where brandashing a gun at someone but not shooting them in a situation where you claim to fear for your life. Show me that case.

I'm guessing you're asking about the legality of gun brandishing in a self defense scenario, whilst not firing the gun. Each state has its own language on the matter. The difference in the states is wide ranging. Based on the following web link, it appears that in some some states it is legal to brandish a firearm sometimes and in other states it is never legal to brandish a firearm: http://www.usacarry.com/brandishing-firearm/
That website only shows a few laws though, so anybody curious about the matter should probably do some in depth research on the laws in their state.

oh yeah, and the part you have been waiting for... i was wrong. BUT i was also correct. It just depends on the state.
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I'm guessing you're asking about the legality of gun brandishing in a self defense scenario, whilst not firing the gun. Each state has its own language on the matter. The difference in the states is wide ranging. Based on the following web link, it appears that in some some states it is legal to brandish a firearm sometimes and in other states it is never legal to brandish a firearm: http://www.usacarry.com/brandishing-firearm/
That website only shows a few laws though, so anybody curious about the matter should probably do some in depth research on the laws in their state.

oh yeah, and the part you have been waiting for... i was wrong. BUT i was also correct. It just depends on the state.



And much more importantly you were grossly wrong morally, human life is not something to take just because it would make your case stand up better in court. That is borderline serial killer thinking
any problem with small pets in your neighborhood?
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Jan 26 2015 05:41am
"Stop get out of my house, I am armed and the cops are already on the way!"

They come any closer. They will get shot. Pretty simple...
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And much more importantly you were grossly wrong morally, human life is not something to take just because it would make your case stand up better in court. That is borderline serial killer thinking
any problem with small pets in your neighborhood?


lol, tell it to the police.

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lol, tell it to the police.



oh suddenly flippant?

uncomfortable with what's actually right and wrong?
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Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Jan 26 2015 05:38am)
oh suddenly flippant?

uncomfortable with what's actually right and wrong?


Save your anthropocentric dribble for the justice department that you find so morally righteous. I didn't make the laws.

This post was edited by NatureNames on Jan 26 2015 06:42am
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Quote (NatureNames @ 26 Jan 2015 07:39)
Save your anthropocentric dribble for the justice department that you find so morally righteous.


you obviously have no idea who you are even talking to, and you are using words that are totally out of context :D

try a little harder please.

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Quote (NatureNames @ Jan 26 2015 12:46am)
I'm guessing you're asking about the legality of gun brandishing in a self defense scenario, whilst not firing the gun. Each state has its own language on the matter. The difference in the states is wide ranging. Based on the following web link, it appears that in some some states it is legal to brandish a firearm sometimes and in other states it is never legal to brandish a firearm: http://www.usacarry.com/brandishing-firearm/
That website only shows a few laws though, so anybody curious about the matter should probably do some in depth research on the laws in their state.

oh yeah, and the part you have been waiting for... i was wrong. BUT i was also correct. It just depends on the state.


and someone pulling a gun but not shooting in a fear for their life is doesnt fit the definition of brandishing. Thats a completely separate issue in almost all cases. Youre referring to the legality of branshing a weapon without fear for life. Please show me the law or case youre referring to.
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