omg... souldmate.... I noticed the exact same thing just now when I read that....

I cannot stop laughing haha (both AT him and with you lol)

So Jay Z is responsible for... holy hell I can't even finish the sentence. What is this I don't even...

Dude, Jay-Z is secretly the president. Willow Smith is his VP.

Get over it. You live in a fucking police state no matter what numbers you wanna play with.

Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix

That's where your future freedom is if you keep ignoring your slavery. It's current now, and if you sit on your lazy cowardly hands much longer, your kids will be slaves forever too. I honestly don't expect you to give a shit, agree, or even acknowledge any truth in here so just do yourself a favor and take the advice you gave me earlier... when you so eloquently told me to "go kill yourself"

Have fun being a big tough internet bully. I hope you feel like a man for a moment, because it's as close as you will ever come.



@ BOLD First of all, I never admitted anything. Nice assumption but.... THEY ARE MY ROADS TOO. I WILL TRAVEL ON THEM AS I SEE FIT OPERATING UNDER FULL LIABILITY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I do NOT need permission from you or anyone else to do that because it is my right. You can't take it away, and neither can any governing body. Pretending that some highway traffic "act" is more lawful than my right to travel is ignorant. You assume much, and so does the state. It's pathetic how much you need to be told what you can and can not do, and the fact that you defend such ignorant and childish behavior so vehemently "parroting" the established lie is pathetic. I dare you to defend the most basic rights handed down to you by real men, instead of defend the ones that can so easily be taken away from you after they make you BEG for them.

AS FOR THE TOLL ROADS, this is a stupid question. I don't answer stupid questions. They are unlawful. <-- notice the period

@ Italic Once you "APPLY" or "BEG" for a license your freedom becomes conditional. I'm talking about the alternative to that. You realize that one cannot be governed without consent right? You just assume that this "social contract" is non negotiable. More presumptions that I care nothing for. You need to respect a mans rights, and stop focusing the state delegated privileges.

The next bit about "borrowing armaments" while walking around some military complex... My answer is yes absolutely. Why the fuck not? Have you tried it? Has anyone tried it? Do you have a history of stealing? Do you have a clear intention of harming someone? If the answer is no, and you need something publicly funded, I say you should be entitled to use it anyway you see fit, so long as you respect other peoples rights and act lawfully. Don't pretend and talk about some stupid scenario where the uni bomber gets his hands on a nuke or some other shit, I'm talking about public property and how it should be accessible to the public so long as it is a lawful intention. The main reason we can't do that today is because the unlawful taxes collected to pay for military industry is unlawful and the people protecting their secret military wouldn't want any light shone on their secret dealings against the american people and the rest of the lawful world. I'm sure you can think of many other objections as you always do. Your so called "reasonable conditions" are completely unlawful and unreasonable to anyone sane enough to know the difference between legal and lawful.

A licence is nothing. The question is, to whom do the conditions apply? They apply to persons acting under title or licence or as agents or employees of the state. Such persons are subject to statute.
They do not apply to people who are simply being people. People are subject to the Law of the Land which is the common law. The councils have used OUR land to build/maintain the highways. We owe them nothing.

It's all about jurisdiction.
Look up the legal definitions for "Vehicle, Excise, Duty, Driver and Passenger"

Licensing, Permits, Registration and Certification.
It is the Crowns contention that the act of driving can only be lawful when done with the appropriate crown issued ‘licences and certificates’ – that the act of driving without these crown issued ‘licences and certificates’ is criminal – that driving is “in itself a criminal act”.




The very fact that the Crown licences people to exercise their right of passage to pass and re-pass is prima facie that the act can not ‘in itself’ be a criminal act. It is merely a prohibited act ‘mallum prohibitum’. Oh, and the requirement for a licence was by an Act not common law. The Swift J quote above couldn't make it clearer. THEY can not licence an act which is of itself criminal....travelling by what ever means prior to licencing was not criminal and can not be made criminal by the requirement to hold a licence.

Once applied and given the licence ties you to ALL the things you say. This I do not dispute. What I do dispute is the reduction of freedom that is occuring based on ignorance of the most simple and common laws of the land that have been subverted by people who parrot the social contract that you ASSUME is governing everyone, even those who refuse consent to be governed.

ATTENTION ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO SAY "IF YOU DO NOT CONSENT, GTFO" You can shut the fuck up and be a man for once, and learn your rights instead of giving them up so easily, and then repeating your own cowardice to the masses to reinforce your own fucking slavery.

You Shut The Fuck Up!

Data, you live in canada eh? How could (or can) that possibly be a police state? They don't even have electricity up there.

First and foremost, calm down. I'd rather you stuck around and contributed once in a while, rather than work yourself up into a lather and disappear for months at a time whilst you brood and skulk. I intend to treat you with respect unless you persist in raging on people who disagree with you.

If you're going to claim the amount of ownership of the roads you are claiming, then you logically must claim the responsibility for those roads at the same measure. Do you go out and repair/build roads at your own expense? Doubtful. The roads are extremely marginally yours. Seeing as there are millions of "us" and one of "you," we are well within our collective rights to ensure that you operate your dangerous machinery safely. We are well within our rights to restrict your free speech insofar as you cannot indiscriminately yell fire in a crowded theater without fear of repercussions because you infringe our rights. Do you have a right to go to the theater like the rest of us? Sure. But you don't get to act in any manner you deem fit without repercussions. We can, and we often do revoke your permission to operate dangerous machinery around the rest of us who work to maintain that privilege if you cannot demonstrate that you are willing to abide our rules for our roads. Like I keep having to point out (sigh), you can still use the roads for travel via walking or biking, but we retain the right to protect ourselves from you regarding automobiles. Bitch all you want, you CAN use the roads, you simply CAN'T use them in any manner you deem fit with no regard for the rest of us. You STILL have the right to travel. You do NOT have the right to travel in any manner you deem fit with no regard for us. Also, your liability to others is unlimited so long as you don't carry insurance, but liability has nothing to do with whether or not you may use the roads as you deem fit without fear of the consequences.



What statute is violated building toll roads if they're unlawful? I'll assume you can't actually source one, so I'll proceed under the reasonable assumption it is patently wrong. You won't answer "the stupid question" because you know I'm going to pillory you over your answer. Don't be scared, defend your position from scrutiny.



Do you have a driver's license?

Your rights stop where mine begin.



So when you talk about lawful, and laws are passed saying you can be shot on sight legally wandering around a military installation, regardless of what you profess to be doing, you won't complain, right? And you clearly AREN'T acting lawfully if you drive on our roads without a license. We have laws that say you can't, so you cannot "act lawfully." But perhaps you mean obey the traffic laws. Well guess what; you don't get to choose which laws to obey. How are taxes unlawful? Be specific. How are laws stating you must have a license to drive on our roads "unlawful?" Be specific.



...and persons desiring to operate dangerous machinery in close proximity to others must gain such a license. People who "simply want to be people" may use the roads by foot or bike. If they want to operate car need a license.



You realize this case has to do with whether a victim can consent to a crime, and has nothing to do with you consenting to be governed? If this case were valid under your premise though, society would be the "victim" of your driving habits and when you have to go through society's prosecuting attorneys to obtain society's consent for your choice of action, good luck. You're gonna need it. Driving unlicensed on public roads IS a criminal act.

In America, you are as free as you think you are.

Blah blah blah!

When you got your licence and passed your drivers "test" did you read the motor vehicle act too?
Allow me to answer for you with a resounding and most obvious NO! NO YOU DIDN'T!

Yet here you are professing to me how all those regulations are keeping you and society safe from my driving habits...
That's a LOT of assumptions, like I expected.

You don't know 1% of the information presented in the highways and traffic acts surrounding your jurisdiction yet you defend them to the extreme. How are you supposed to abide by every piece of legislation under every act or statute if you DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE??? You're fucking ridiculous. Your entire wall of text is an embarrassment and a detriment to true freedom and true sovereign power. You can be babysat all you want, but don't expect me to bow down to your herd leaders.

I do not consent to be governed and you don't have to either. Don't you get it?

As for my posting habits, they have nothing to do with this forum. I have a life that I enjoy living, and yeah that doesn't always include the internet and online forums filled with cowards and dumbed down slaves. Just be thankful that I came back to set you idiots on the right path to sovereignty. If you don't like it, take a hike to the next topic I really don't concern myself with whether you enjoy these threads or not. You either participate intelligently or move along.

We elect representatives to make laws for us. We trust them. Problem solved.

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