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Dec 22 2009 05:41pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Dec 22 2009 06:40pm)
Nobody has addressed the fact that a gay man and a straight man both possess the very same positive rights, the straight man (should he marry) just chooses to exercise his.


i would go so far to say that most do not view gay men as equals to straight men.
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Dec 22 2009 05:46pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Dec 22 2009 03:40pm)
Nobody has addressed the fact that a gay man and a straight man both possess the very same positive rights, the straight man (should he marry) just chooses to exercise his.


I'm sure the gay man would, should he choose to, exercise this right if it were available to him.
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Dec 22 2009 05:48pm
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I'm sure the gay man would, should he choose to, exercise this right if it were available to him.


He has the right, should he wish, he can legally marry a woman, the same can be said of a straight man, a bisexual man, or any man.

There is no legal distinction between gays and straights, they are treated equally by the law. A particular action (a union between two men) is not being acknowledged, but the individuals are afforded equal rights under the law.
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Dec 22 2009 06:12pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Dec 22 2009 03:48pm)
He has the right, should he wish, he can legally marry a woman, the same can be said of a straight man, a bisexual man, or any man.

There is no legal distinction between gays and straights, they are treated equally by the law. A particular action (a union between two men) is not being acknowledged, but the individuals are afforded equal rights under the law.


Marriage is legal institution, all people should be equal under the law in a moral society. Gays are not afforded equality under the law as they are not allowed to exercise their rights while others are.

This post was edited by GTL on Dec 22 2009 06:16pm
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Quote (GTL @ Dec 22 2009 07:12pm)
Marriage is legal institution, all people should be equal under the law in a moral society. Gays are not afforded equality under the law as they are not allowed to exercise their rights while others are.


Horse shit .

Society has the right to withhold rights from whomever it deems worthy of exclusion .
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Dec 22 2009 06:27pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Dec 22 2009 08:26pm)
Horse shit .

Society has the right to withhold rights from whomever it deems worthy of exclusion .


Especially black people. Reverse Brown v Board. reverse Plessy v Ferguson. Let's put 'em to work in the cotton fields.
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Dec 22 2009 06:29pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Dec 22 2009 07:26pm)
Horse shit .

Society has the right to withhold rights from whomever it deems worthy of exclusion .


I deem that society is unworthy of holding the right of withholding rights of those it deems worthy of exclusion.
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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Dec 22 2009 04:26pm)
Horse shit .

Society has the right to withhold rights from whomever it deems worthy of exclusion .


Yeah.. because that worked with blacks... look at em now. Still slaves... oh wait. :\

Society is very progressive, conservatism gets Darwin'd no matter what society you look at.

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Quote (bogie160 @ Dec 22 2009 11:48pm)
He has the right, should he wish, he can legally marry a woman, the same can be said of a straight man, a bisexual man, or any man.

There is no legal distinction between gays and straights, they are treated equally by the law. A particular action (a union between two men) is not being acknowledged, but the individuals are afforded equal rights under the law.


Yeah because marrying someone you have no attraction toward so you can ascertain rights like everyone else is a grand idea.

We want to have the same rights and benefits with someone of the same sex, and there isn't a reason why we shouldn't be allowed such ability.

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Dec 22 2009 06:34pm
Quote (Sioux @ Dec 22 2009 12:00am)
Lots of people were raised to believe that blacks were inferior to whites.


:huh:
eh. wow i wasnt raised to believe that......lol
but ok.


Quote (lithfkn @ Dec 22 2009 12:07am)
Can't think for yourself?


well ofc i can...you have a choose...you were shown a certain view by your parents or whoever, but you have that chose to choose.
just like you chose to disagree or agree on my opinion.
you were taught in a certain way and you chose to believe or not..
i choose my view, no gay marriage...just simple as that.

Quote (tric-isHUGE @ Dec 22 2009 12:09am)
Why isn't it proper?

And even if you think so, don't you see a problem with taking your subjective preference and making it into an objective law? That obviously does nothing other than create unrest and frustration and division within the populace.


its a chose....chose to make a comment like that lol
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