Wouldn't the insider trading also apply if COVID came from a bat? Obviously knowing which company has the vaccine first and will get billions of government funding will make you rich, independently of the source of the virus

Edit: I am not defending insider trading, shame on everybody involved. I don't see how that correlates to the origin of the virus though.

This post was edited by SkySwallower on Oct 31 2024 11:19am

Yes the insider trading also applies if it came from a bat....how could it not? That's where the research was conducted?

Are you saying that the bats themselves created Covid-19? or do you rationally/logically come to the conclusion millions others have. They "China/US" introduced something into the bats themselves or into their environment which led to "Covid-19 itself".

Either way the causation breaks down to military scientist playing god and losing. The Chinese military/US military were working with bats and "something" they knew "could" happen. Happened.

The fact that in 2011 they were already doing this research and people like yourselves and others refuse to believe it doesn't change causal reality.

Whatever they were doing here had to be moved to China where they could do things that aren't "ethical".

How could any rational person not see the whole situation as being "government created" / "government solution" / "government reaction". Problem. Reaction. Solution. That's causal reality and anyone whose done even a small amount of research into "Covid" sees these things...

edit: Every citizen on Earth should have gotten a check from China and the US government for being directly responsible for Covid-19. If there were Nuremberg trials for Covid just ask yourself who would be sitting in the chairs. US and Chinese scientist amongst officials/administrators who created the virus itself. Accidentally released doesn't cover causality when it couldn't have happened if the research never took place in the first place...

That's why I keep saying "causal reality" because by citizens of the world not ackwledging whose responsible we are complicit when/if it happens again.

Do you think the US military/Chinese military or other militaries who conduct research into "bio-weapons" just magically stopped when Covid happened? No. Most other countries intellectual leadership said, "Well if the Chinese and US can make viruses in a lab" we can do it too now! This is the same phenomena with nuclear weapons. Oh you have em so so can we! Both nuclear weapons and man made viruses can only cause negative repercussions in our environment and in us as human beings. Yet our governments test these things in labs and without our knowledge 24/7 365. Then when the worst possible outcome of controversial research comes to light no one can rationally believe the "smartest scientist" are working on "nefarious projects" for the military.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Oct 31 2024 11:43am

Imagine saying the two most powerful nations on Earth(US and China) don't work on things like they did in "Wuhan, China". Its totally counterintuitive to the mainstream narrative that the US and China hate each other and soon we'll go to war over "Taiwan". Why would the two most powerful nations not work in tandem(through trade and military posturing) behind the scenes. They do and they helped each other avoid accountability for what was the worst "crime" perpetuated on the worlds population.

The most powerful nations work on the most anti-ethical weapons you could imagine and they have to to maintain their "illusory power" over the masses. By scaring you into thinking were going to "nuke each other into oblivion" or "some virus from the jungle is going to kill you" allows both to continue to maintain extreme control over their population. By putting everyone in a state of fear "you created" you have the most power to manipulate that. They are the manipulator the public is the manipulated not the other way around.

We are the lab rats and they are the scientist in every way conceivable. To the worlds elite and military we are gunniea pigs to be experimented on so they can try and "cure death" or "disease" and then "profit off" all things associated along the way.

The idea that any human being has a "choice" in the matter is an "illusion". You have no choice. They like I said conduct these experiments with not a care in the world what the fuck happens and again and again the results are seen.

You can vote for everything/everyone that doesn't matter.

Oh a war? no vote

Oh a virus? no choice we are the science

Oh a controversial lab in your backyard? sorry we're doing it anyway

The military dictates to the public what it is allowed to "consume" because it has to to maintain it's power.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely----Think Thomas Jefferson said that

Holds true to this day. The winners write history. Just because we have advanced medicine/science doesn't mean we as citizens are not still lab rats.

The point I'm making is that these "people/institutions" should be held morally accountable and they are not. People were damaged by Covid itself and the vaccine and now the world is going to pretend the "Covid Years" didn't happen. Total brainwashing.

It looks worse on countries that aren't the US or China because your country was essentially hit by a bio-weapon courtesy of China/USA and your nation can speak out(The Netherlands being a good example because they are suing these people/vaccine producers). Countries were destroyed by the "worlds trade being halted from Covid". Essential medicine and humanitarian aid didn't get anywhere and people who never got Covid EVER died as a direct result of the "policy". Do you hear people talk about them? No. They are the voiceless. They are the millions of people worldwide who died "waiting for a normal procedure" because "Covid came first". Millions of people totally dependent on foreign tourism went BROKE because no one could travel anywhere. Businesses/people were told they were non-essential. More peoples lives were ruined by "Covid policy" and not Covid the virus and that's ubiquitous worldwide.

It's why dems/liberals don't talk about it anymore and then when I just talk about accountability I get attacked.

They took "Covid" and case numbers so seriously in the beginning but then as they were told "vaccines are safe and effective" they were lulled into a total state of fear/complacency that they just got in line and got the jab. Really a stunning maneveaur on a psychological level I'm sure Hitler would be proud.

"How'd you get 3-4 billion people to take an inoculation barely even tested willingly??"

"We told them that a bat virus could kill everyone they love and they bought it. Even though we made it in a lab and knew it wasn't even that "lethal".

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Oct 31 2024 12:30pm

You doing exactly what I knew you would do. Your data is mostly total bs with some random actual stuff in there. You never answered mine? Who has the hurricane machine? Does it transfer after elections ? Answer it

The united states military.

Per swamis link ( did you report him for calling you a libturd?):

https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hurricane_blog/70th-anniversary-of-the-first-hurricane-seeding-experiment/

If you believe that the united states MIC hasnt exponentially improved on this type of technology, then i got a bridge to sell you in Manhattan. You really believe that being able to direct a hurricane is some type of unobtainable technology to the US?

This post was edited by zorzin on Nov 1 2024 05:19pm

So when Trump is president and there’s a hurricane its his fault ?

In addition, it was found that unseeded hurricanes form natural outer eyewalls just as the STORMFURY scientists expected seeded ones to do. This phenomenon makes it almost impossible to separate the effect (if any) of seeding from natural changes. The few times that they did seed and saw a reduction in intensity was undoubtedly due to what is now called “concentric eyewall cycles.” Thus nature accomplishes what NOAA had hoped to do artificially. No wonder the first few experiments were thought to be successes. Because the results of seeding experiments were so inconclusive, STORMFURY was discontinued. The primary focus of NOAA’s Hurricane Research Division today is better physical understanding of hurricanes and improvement of forecasts.

The best way to minimize the damage of hurricanes is to learn to co-exist with them

This post was edited by SkySwallower on Nov 4 2024 01:56am

Is MTG right about someone creating a hurricane at the top? No
Is Swami right about Uncle Sam having the theoretical ability to alter a hurricane's trajectory? Yes.

I spent a couple hours going down the weather modification weapons rabbit hole and it's clear as mud that this technology isn't out of the grasp of Uncle Sam. It's all off the books now because of the Environmental Modification Convention Treaty, but if you think this stops America, that bridge is still for sale.

Im not going to be able to link yall an article that explicitly states that the United States militarily can alter the course of a hurricane, but do yall scientists really think its that hard compared to all the other wonderwaffles the US produces? NOAA is a uniformed service but a non-military branch and they werent the only organization/country testing these programs DECADES ago.

"We stopped" said the Military Industrial Complex to the American taxpayer.

Come on guys. I ask again… if y’all are convinced the us government has control of hurricanes did Houston just really piss off Donald trump in his first term enough so that he sent harvey to cause billions of dollars of damage there? Because that’s messed up. Did Donald trump try and use his sharpie to send Dorian to Alabama to make his misstatement correct?

Y’all are gonna be up in arms just like this next time there is a republican president and they send hurricanes to damage portions of the coastal US, right? Right?

Neither democratic or republican administrations control hurricanes. Y’all are just willing to believe any nonsense that implicates democratic government officials/administrations simply because it’s currently convenient and comports with your bias.