I think the issue was xy chromosomes showing up in a gender test instead of xx chromosomes. The test was wrong? Or these tests are not applicable at the Wokelympics?

I don't know but the official statement is that "she" and similar cases are now accepted to compete.

the key difference between her and phelps is you can't take a shot and get longer arms. the Olympics brings people from all over the world, many times from the 3rd world, and testing that number of atheletes for something as simple as testosterone could be difficult.

now im not suggesting that she did take T shots to attain her levels, but XY females typically have Low T not High T. of course when you have genetic mutations all sorts of funky stuff happens so it's likely natural.

that said i dont think the idea of a T level limit on female athletes is comparable to an arm length level for swimmer. one is attainable with injections, one is pure genetics.

i know a few states required female to male trans kids who had started transition to "wrestle their own gender", and as you can imagine it did not go well for the non-T pumping females.

If you (as in federations) can prove she took performance enhancing drugs she should be banned, just like any other competitor. If shes just naturally high test she just has the genetic condition that lends well to sports.

im not a T level expert, but i wonder if she can exceed the normal range and avoid detection. like women have a natural range, so a blood test with 2x that level would be an immediate doping red flag. for her she only gets a yellow flag because of her XY.

then again perhaps a blood test can differentiate between natural t and supplemental t, idk. if that's the case my point is moot.

I don't know how that works either so can't exactly weigh in on it. You look at high performance athletes and testing though and there's certainly a level of doubt in its capabilities, supposedly NFL players are "tested" which leads me to believe there's vastly different standards and I have no idea what the Olympic ones are without looking into it.

And if i'm being honest, I think we are just naturally, no pun intended here inclined to say unfair, unfair, unfair in a women sport and we just let whatever slide in male sports. For male sports ( in terms of outrage), i'd bet the majority outraged here are happy to see males pumped to the absolute gills way outside any natural range smash heads in any sport, because its entertaining. Definitely an imbalance in what were outraged at.

This post was edited by SBD on Aug 6 2024 08:57am

This is gold. You are literally admitting to falling for Russian propaganda. The IBA has a Russian president, and are not recognized by ICO. The IBA will not even give full details on what kind of gender eligibility tests they have ran. Not to mention it is literally illegal to be trans in Algeria, but those facts don't matter to you, right?

You literally fell for russian propaganda and continue to spew false information. How does it feel? Will you recognize your mistake? Or keep reiterating the false info?



Another falling for russian propaganda

This post was edited by Pyrotechx on Aug 6 2024 08:55am

This is the latest, lol

Another falling for stooges like you and the (D) woke gender identity agenda

https://www.reuters.com/sports/olympics/gender-row-boxers-were-disqualified-world-championships-after-chromosome-test-2024-08-05/



Let the athletes in question take another test (by the IOC) and if they pass the tests, fine. So far all I see is discrediting the tests because the director is Russian?


you ignored to even reply to what I posted SMH

This has nothing to do with Phelps who has xy chromosomes and is just exceptionally well built. The women's league exists to let women compete against other women and protects women to have to compete against men. For obvious reasons (already posted this)



This post was edited by Djunior on Aug 6 2024 09:07am

See this is exactly what I mean. Oh hes just exceptionally built for his sport from his GENETIC advantage from birth, which isn't limited to just his limbs but also the chemical process (probably isn't the correct term) in that he generates far less lactic acid than a normal human.

Genetic advantages exist, giving a thumbs up to 1 and a thumbs down to another because you think its fits the woke agenda does note advance the argument in my opinion but only weakens it.

I am firmly in the slot you are what you are when you're born, that's your washroom, that's your sports league (if separate leagues exist), etc., etc. But I absolutely believe some will dominate because of their genetics and that's all this is.

But if they took performance enhancing drugs, sure toss them out, strip any winnings, etc. But if they didn't and they are just "well built" as you say, I don't see the issue.


I think this is a very odd road to go down when were talking about such a tiny, tiny, miniscule % of people that have this genetic condition, even smaller that have it and choose to do sports, even smaller that have it and are actually good at a sport. I think this one is let go and stick to the main arguments for men in female sports.

This post was edited by SBD on Aug 6 2024 09:11am

Not what I said bro. You carefully avoid the point I brought up (twice now) and that is xy chromosomes showing up in a test. A women doesn't have xy chromosomes.

Now address that or don't even reply, lol

Phelps has xy chromosomes and competes in the man's league where he belongs

If the IOC has the athletes tested and shows that the athletes have xx chromosomes, I'm fine with them competing against other women

This post was edited by Djunior on Aug 6 2024 09:14am

Did you... did you really post a link defending my argument? LOLLLLLLLLllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Falling for that bait, son.



Oh more evidence of falling for russian propaganda.



I'll address this.... You FELL FOR RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA. The disgraced IBA is the ONLY ONE who said she has XY chromosomes. They don't know, they just made it up, broooooo. How are you not getting this?

This post was edited by Pyrotechx on Aug 6 2024 09:18am