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Aug 17 2023 09:35pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 17 2023 08:05pm)
I don't understand why you get so defensive about Hillary. Is she your hero? Even if Trump is corrupt, that still does not excuse her corruption...

The fact you immediately shifted the conversation to Trump says you are uncomfortable with discussing Hillary's sleaze.


I dont defend her, she sucks. she probably is corrupt. we are talking about indictments vs no indictments, thats a world of a difference
jessi I know youre new in this thread, but this thread IS about Trump and his sleaziness so pay attention
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Aug 18 2023 05:05am
Quote (gnarjay @ Aug 17 2023 11:35pm)
I dont defend her, she sucks. she probably is corrupt. we are talking about indictments vs no indictments, thats a world of a difference
jessi I know youre new in this thread, but this thread IS about Trump and his sleaziness so pay attention




What you should be looking at is the indictERs, not just the indictEEs.
For example... if Trump had done the things Hillary has done... he'd be hanging from a tree by now.

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Aug 18 2023 07:36am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 17 2023 06:31pm)
Oh, I believe that Hilary would have squeaked by against Bernie in a fair primary. But the DNC clearly didn't want to risk a bruising, dragged out primary which shines even more light on her weaknesses. It's still indicative of her weakness as a candidate that she struggled this much with Bernie in spite of all the institutional support behind her.

Regarding the campaigning in the Rust Belt... it's a common talking point, but I'm not entirely sure that her rallies and speeches would have done her any favor in places like MI or WI. I watched one or two of her rallies back then and they were chock-full with feminist and racial pandering - not exactly themes that would have struck a chord with Obama-Trump voters.


i mean she lost by 23k votes in wisconsin. that's a pretty small margin she COULD have changed with some targeted campaigning in Milwaukee, Madison, and the Fox Valley. but overall its hindsight, she lost so we have to look for how she COULD have won, without the ability to test it.
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Well bby golly gee, if they say they have evidence, but they won't show ya any of it, well, don't that make you think their lyin' ??

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Aug 18 2023 08:51am
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What you should be looking at is the indictERs, not just the indictEEs.
For example... if Trump had done the things Hillary has done... he'd be hanging from a tree by now.


I think he has done more than her. and he's not on bail. with 91 indictment's. Stop crying about grandma HRC its done and past.
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Quote (Ghot @ 18 Aug 2023 07:05)
What you should be looking at is the indictERs, not just the indictEEs.
For example... if Trump had done the things Hillary has done... he'd be hanging from a tree by now.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/





https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

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Aug 18 2023 09:01am
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From the Washington Post article...

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A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.



So what is the judge saying... the law is wrong or the interpretation is wrong.
Either way... witch hunt crapola.

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Aug 18 2023 10:21am
So if he goes to jail will the left be happy?

If he doesn't go to jail will the right be happy?

After all of this will anyone let it go?

Good luck to both sides
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Quote (Ghot @ Aug 18 2023 04:05am)
What you should be looking at is the indictERs, not just the indictEEs.
For example... if Trump had done the things Hillary has done... he'd be hanging from a tree by now.


Trump did far more in terms of magnitude and occurrence, and he's going to court for it. thats exactly how it should be
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Aug 18 2023 11:09am
Quote (KeeperHalidom @ Aug 18 2023 11:21am)
So if he goes to jail will the left be happy?

If he doesn't go to jail will the right be happy?

After all of this will anyone let it go?

Good luck to both sides


if Trump made his 2024 campaign about fixing america he'd be attacked on that, instead he made it about how he was "cheated" in 2020. he is his own worst enemy. we're in a country with rapid inflation, far too much money going towards both foreign aid and stupid projects, degrading healthcare, dwindling savings, a housing market that's ready to bust, poorly allocated natural resources, and many other issues. instead he makes his campaign about the 2020 election, and puts the focus on obscure people like local election officials. bad mistake.
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