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May 15 2023 07:41pm
Quote (Crunkt @ May 16 2023 04:09am)
but you said we live in an era

and you are now talking only about people that have time to think about philosophy and existentialism

so a 2500 year era? Socrates is more than 2000 years old... and that's just western philosophy.

you can try to be subjective and talk about some people in this era who theorized things such as ones perception of reality is subjective and therefore every outcome of humanity is subjective etc etc. But now you are just back pedalling your attempt at brilliance and reducing the argument to 'well ya philosophers say so'


Im talking about the modern age as in 20th century and on. Western mainstream philosophy during this era is very individualistic and if you look at it from the outside, you see that its correlated with quality of life. From a global perspective, poorer regions, with less prosperity overall and greater inequalities of wealth, are generally more preoccupied with objective truths, such as survival, basic needs, health, death, reproduction, family etc. They dont have time to question their own existence when theyre actively preoccupied with prolonging it. That's why i implied that existentialism is a 1st world problem in a provocative manner. Developed countries have effectively eliminated external threats, so we turn to our internal ones and ultimately face the meaninglessness of our own existence.

And no im not belittling philosophers. Im trying to put subjective anguish in perspective with the material, objective suffering that exists in this world.

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was watching a food asmr video and they were at japan and used some vending machine to get a burger. they had a microwave on a stall next to the public sidewalk lol. i kept thinking how long that would last if it was in the usa



reminds me of when the cia used 5g microwaves to get the trump presidency out of the white house.
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May 15 2023 08:16pm
Quote (Neptunus @ May 15 2023 12:58am)
I think existential crises are a side product of prosperity and individualism. The former lets us live our lives without actual dangers, and the latter shifts the focus from the exterior of the mind to the interior. We live in an era where what's subjective is often put on the same standing as the objective.


I think individualism and emphasis on independence necessitates the formation of existential crisis. It's like we've all spawned into an MMO but rather than people meeting in town regularly to group up, chat, or collaborate, we're told we're supposed to just take care of ourselves and our immediate loved ones. Rather than seeing ourselves as part of Alliance or Horde, we're told to just focus on ourselves and place emphasis on being "Nick" or whatever our names are.
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May 15 2023 08:37pm
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I think individualism and emphasis on independence necessitates the formation of existential crisis. It's like we've all spawned into an MMO but rather than people meeting in town regularly to group up, chat, or collaborate, we're told we're supposed to just take care of ourselves and our immediate loved ones. Rather than seeing ourselves as part of Alliance or Horde, we're told to just focus on ourselves and place emphasis on being "Nick" or whatever our names are.


Yes but we're also told to place great importance on whatever crafting option we decided to specialize in, and to deliver goods to the owners at regular intervals to maintain the server.

Our only source of greater connetion is the 40+ hours a week we spend grinding our crafting skills for the profits of the server owners.
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May 15 2023 08:39pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 15 2023 07:37pm)
Yes but we're also told to place great importance on whatever crafting option we decided to specialize in, and to deliver goods to the owners at regular intervals to maintain the server.

Our only source of greater connetion is the 40+ hours a week we spend grinding our crafting skills for the profits of the server owners.


Capitalism is what happens when griefers take over the server.
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May 15 2023 08:41pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ May 15 2023 09:39pm)
Capitalism is what happens when griefers take over the server.


Unironically one of the reasons why Vtubers have arisen as such a phenomena in the streaming space is the ability to create a community around a person without knowing who the person is. The spaces tend to be extremely positive, even if the positivity isn't very deep since it's an entertainment channel and gives you a sense of community where you can support each other without being so invested you need to spend a ton of real time and resources to help people. Kind of like how at church you just donate $10 to the tray a few times a month.

It's pretty interesting how this whole internet thing is evolving. It's still going, nothing is stagnant.
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May 15 2023 08:43pm
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Unironically one of the reasons why Vtubers have arisen as such a phenomena in the streaming space is the ability to create a community around a person without knowing who the person is. The spaces tend to be extremely positive, even if the positivity isn't very deep since it's an entertainment channel and gives you a sense of community where you can support each other without being so invested you need to spend a ton of real time and resources to help people. Kind of like how at church you just donate $10 to the tray a few times a month.

It's pretty interesting how this whole internet thing is evolving. It's still going, nothing is stagnant.


I agree. I'll see you in the metaverse, comrade.
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May 15 2023 08:44pm
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I agree. I'll see you in the metaverse, comrade.


Closest we'll everr get to metaverse is whatever the better version of google glass is.

I wish google glass had been useful. It had so many good use cases.
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May 15 2023 08:48pm
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Closest we'll everr get to metaverse is whatever the better version of google glass is.

I wish google glass had been useful. It had so many good use cases.


But one looks like a faggot with them on. Hard pass.
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May 15 2023 08:56pm
Quote (Crunkt @ May 15 2023 06:09pm)
but you said we live in an era

and you are now talking only about people that have time to think about philosophy and existentialism

so a 2500 year era? Socrates is more than 2000 years old... and that's just western philosophy.

you can try to be subjective and talk about some people in this era who theorized things such as ones perception of reality is subjective and therefore every outcome of humanity is subjective etc etc. But now you are just back pedalling your attempt at brilliance and reducing the argument to 'well ya philosophers say so'


In the context of Western civilization, the era began with Cyrus the Great's legendary visit to Greece. There, he taught them how to live and how to think. That was the origin of Classical Antiquity, where the enlightened Magi of Zoroaster generously imparted their wisdom to the western peoples (the white man if you will)
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