Quote (Sioux @ May 8 2023 09:56pm)

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Nah

Quote (majorblood @ May 8 2023 09:58pm)

I don't think anyone is refuting that there was a large spike of discussion of nazis in ukraine after russia invaded

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ May 8 2023 07:01pm)

always nice to see narratives change

we got years of propaganda to get support for so called "moderate rebels" in syria who just wanted democracy

they were (aside from the kurds ofc) literally sunni extremists the entire time and then became ISIS

now we get people worshopping literal nazi collaborators as heroes (bandera), that participated in the holocaust, running around with swastikas and black sun symbols fighting for the freedom of the entire world

a while ago the same media talked about the same place being one of the most corrupt shitholes in the world with a government eliminating all opposition, bombing civilians and nationalists hosting literal hitler youth camps

npc's gonna npc

Quote (Goomshill @ May 9 2023 07:54am)

Im just sayin, theres a certain level of impressiveness that we went from arming ISIS to arming a group even worse. I'm a cynic but just a couple years ago I'd have laughed at the prospect we'd be arming literal Nazi war criminals in 2022. Where do you even find actual Nazis in the modern age? I'm struggling to think how we'll one up this. Maybe Joseph Kony will team up with a crew of satanic cannibals and child molesters and we'll send them stinger missiles

Quote (HeLiCaL @ May 8 2023 07:20pm)

:rofl:

pictures of himself uploaded on a fringe russian boomer dating site with 0 followers aswell

miraculously dug up by CIA-front bellingcat

Quote (Goomshill @ May 8 2023 04:02pm)

Well they found the only bastion of actual Nazis in power in the world and gave them heavy weaponry. Not "aren't swastikas cool" Nazis. The folks who keep accidentally showing off their SS and black sun insignias on their footage committing war crimes, those Nazis
I could care less about the folks lobbing around the word 'nazi' so willy nilly that they started accusing proud boys of being neo-nazis despite the whole 'black men taking a creed explicitly denouncing racism to join a multiracial group' thing.

America remained a whole lot more nebulous about our support for ISIS during the Obama era. At first the neoliberals tried to sanitize "pro-democracy sunni freedom fighters", but when they started forming their own caliphate we eventually backed off and armed the kurds to kill ISIS, so we can say we explicitly supported the Kurds and that might piss off Erdogan but I don't really care, and our creation of ISIS boils down more to poor strategy and lack of foresight and a few shadowy CIA weapons shipments, more than actual overt support for ISIS against Assad. But we really threw that kind of deniability and clean-hands approach out the window when it came to the Azov Battalion and all those wonderful folks with Swastikas, SS tattoos and framed pictures of Stepan Bandera.

Quote (thesnipa @ May 9 2023 07:54am)

the problem people have with Nazis, crazy enough, is the whole purposeful systematic genocide. like putting people in trains, pulling out their gold teeth, gassing them to death, then burning them in mass graves.
anything short of that, and no bombing rebels in the east of ukraine doesnt count, and dont bother to use the word nazi. even if they have 1,000 copies of mein kampf, carry nazi flags, and say heil hitler when they greet each other.
"but but but they armed LITERALLY NAZIS", it's pathetic. grow up.

Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ May 9 2023 05:02am)

its indeed hard to find actual nazis like that, but come on, they are nowhere near ISIS

Quote (Goomshill @ May 9 2023 08:00am)

I take a special exception on the boundaries of moral relativism when it comes to Nazi war criminals. That's a full stop, do not pass go, do not collect $200
If I'm going to have a hangup I feel like 'literal nazis' is a pretty safe one to have