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Mar 16 2023 07:30am
Quote (fender @ Mar 16 2023 01:27pm)
i think when you talk about russia's "right", you mean its "interest". the way you frame it is moscow's position, but it's not international law.

let me try to explain: imagine a bank robbery. it might be in the "interest" of the robbers to kill witnesses, but that doesn't make it their "right". understand the difference?



perhaps you should read the topic again, and then perhaps you might edit and correct your post. cheers!
Ultimately international law is whatever the person with the biggest stick determines it to be. The China balloon is a better analogy then some imaginary bank robber.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 16 2023 07:37am
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Mar 16 2023 07:38am
Djunior is right, there is no objective discussion from meanwhiles, ironfisters or prox1m1t1t1t1ys side

Its annoying to repeat facts again and again
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Mar 16 2023 07:39am
Quote (ferdia @ 16 Mar 2023 13:47)
is Elon musk also a bot for proposing Ukraine give up some of its land?
are presidents that ask for peace also bots?


Elon musk ? Really... :huh:

This poor defensless little drone (who was only here to take nice photos of M0Th3r Russia) got deliberately pissed on and its properler got severely damaged.
Next time have the same kind of behavior on road trafic and figure out if the cops will arrest you or not....International Laws.

After that U.S clearly said they will continue their activities. But doing shortcuts with nordstream 2 wtf loool. This fits well with the behavior you have, along with some "friends", to NEVER talk about the russian agression of ukraine itself but instead to circle jerk on "who's fault" always pointing NATO & US...
You really need a detoxification cure Ferdia ^_^ (having a good tone while saying this)

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Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 16 2023 01:39pm)
Elon musk ? Really... :huh:

This poor defensless little drone (who was only here to take nice photos of M0Th3r Russia) got deliberately pissed on and its properler got severely damaged.
Next time have the same kinf of behavior on road trafic and figure out if the cops will arrest you or not....International Laws.

After that U.S clearly said they will continue their activities. But doing shortcuts with nordstream 2 wtf loool. This fits well with the behavior you have, along with some "friends", to NEVER talk about the russian agression of ukraine itself but instead to circle jerk on "who's fault" always pointing NATO & US...
You really need a detoxification cure Ferdia ^_^ (having a good tone while saying this)


do you see this ? this is why I will continue to debate with meanwhile, because while he disagrees with my position and challenges me on basic ideas, he has very valid concerns and challenges that he can verbalise without always being toxic or acting in bad faith. He is right - I do not talk much about the russian attrocities in ukraine.

Meanwhile - the reason why I do not talk much about russian war crimes and what they do to ukraine, is because you and others do. If you look closely, I never refute what is said - russia DOES commit war crimes, russia clearly wants to destroy ukraine and russian armed forces are no patch on the ukrianian defenders. Putin has this idea of sphere of influence in his head, which is wrong, and Putin has betrayed ukraine. If at times you wonder why I dont further support you re: russian aggression its because this is a western website and the predominant position is yours, and there should be a counter balance or at the very least we should question what we are being fed.

This Drone is a perfect example. The US is actively supporting Russia's enemy, on Russia's border. In response to this downing of a drone there are calls in the US for the US to destroy Russian Jets. A shooting war can escalate very very fast and certain actions will result in a hard wired response. I honestly can say that I will ever challenge that this is a bad idea. While I would like to think that everyone does not want a shooting war between the US and Russia the simple fact is we are getting closer and closer to that.

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Quote (ferdia @ 16 Mar 2023 14:30)
perhaps you should read the topic again, and then perhaps you might edit and correct your post. cheers!
Ultimately international law is whatever the person with the biggest stick determines it to be. The China balloon is a better analogy then some imaginary bank robber.


i read the topic. maybe you want to look up what "right" means and edit your post accordingly? cheers.

i just made an analogy because you didn't seem to understand it otherwise. the chinese spy balloon(s) violated american air space. also, the chinese were not trying to provide surveillance to a country that is currently defending itself against american military aggression. so that analogy is considerably worse.

it's funny, when pressed on it directly you acknowledge that russia's invasion of ukraine is unjust - but every post of your is framed in a way that favours moscow's perspective. context matters. russia is currently killing ukrainians in order to conquer their land. maybe remind yourself of that when you comment on such situations? they aren't happening in a vacuum, you know?
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Mar 16 2023 07:58am
Quote (fender @ Mar 16 2023 01:54pm)
i read the topic. maybe you want to look up what "right" means and edit your post accordingly? cheers.

i just made an analogy because you didn't seem to understand it otherwise. the chinese spy balloon(s) violated american air space. also, the chinese were not trying to provide surveillance to a country that is currently defending itself against american military aggression. so that analogy is considerably worse.

it's funny, when pressed on it directly you acknowledge that russia's invasion of ukraine is unjust - but every post of your is framed in a way that favours moscow's perspective. context matters. russia is currently killing ukrainians in order to conquer their land. maybe remind yourself of that when you comment on such situations? they aren't happening in a vacuum, you know?


do you see this ? this is why I tend to simply ignore Fender. He has repeatedly demonstrated an inability to debate in good faith and never hesitates to flame people. He is far too self righteous for this sub forum and is in the low minority of people are not worth conversing with because his first and last card is to hurl abuse.
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Mar 16 2023 08:00am
Quote (ferdia @ 16 Mar 2023 21:58)
^Djunior do you see this ? this is why I tend to simply ignore Fender. He has repeatedly demonstrated an inability to debate in good faith and never hesitates to flame people. He is far too self righteous for this sub forum and is in the low minority of people are not worth conversing with because his first and last card is to hurl abuse.


Maybe because the last time he experienced love and intimacy was when people were pre ordering the first edition of the Bible.
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Mar 16 2023 08:05am
Quote (ferdia @ 16 Mar 2023 14:58)
^Djunior do you see this ? this is why I tend to simply ignore Fender. He has repeatedly demonstrated an inability to debate in good faith and never hesitates to flame people. He is far too self righteous for this sub forum and is in the low minority of people are not worth conversing with because his first and last card is to hurl abuse.


djunior is the one who called ME a "moron", yet you somehow managed to blame me for that.

i haven't flamed you at all - i just replied to you in tone. your projections about self-righteousness might just be the pinnacle of hypocrisy btw. every time i challenge your views, every time we get to why you constantly put kremlin friendly spins on most of your posts you just bail by lying about me "flaming" people. at least people like junior and hamster hurl their insults and get it off their chests - you just dodge while acting holier-than-thou, lol.

guess you just don't have the arguments to hold a serious conversation. guess i'll just see you third partying with users who constantly call me names while complaining about my alleged name-calling, lol.

This post was edited by fender on Mar 16 2023 08:06am
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Mar 16 2023 08:20am
Quote (ferdia @ 16 Mar 2023 14:58)
^Djunior do you see this ? this is why I tend to simply ignore Fender. He has repeatedly demonstrated an inability to debate in good faith and never hesitates to flame people. He is far too self righteous for this sub forum and is in the low minority of people are not worth conversing with because his first and last card is to hurl abuse.


Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 16 Mar 2023 15:00)
Maybe because the last time he experienced love and intimacy was when people were pre ordering the first edition of the Bible.


Are we back to highschool ? ^_^
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this is a gaming website. most people here never grew up ok.
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