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Jul 27 2017 09:26am
Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Jul 27 2017 12:20am)
Some good news comes out of the senate today, a senate panel that decides the FAA budget rejected the proposal to privatize air-traffic control. Not finalized though.
Some bad news out of the house, they voted to strip bank & credit card customers of their constitutional right to a day in court (makes it harder for you to find banks accountable via the legal system) again not finalized, but given the current climate, likely to happen.


yeah privatize is super scary. we dont want better air traffic control anyways.
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Jul 27 2017 09:53am
I guess it wouldn't be a true poor man's zombie Reagan presidency without air traffic getting involved.
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Jul 27 2017 09:56am
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yeah privatize is super scary. we dont want better air traffic control anyways.


Your claim is undetermined.

Air traffic control is probably too important to leave to the whims of a fickle and invisible hand.

I don't want to be safe flying only when it is profittable....i want to be safe 100% of the time.
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Jul 27 2017 10:09am
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Your claim is undetermined.

Air traffic control is probably too important to leave to the whims of a fickle and invisible hand.

I don't want to be safe flying only when it is profittable....i want to be safe 100% of the time.


childish dig at invisible hand, hoping readers dont understand what it actually means
pretend its a big safety hazard, with anti-capitalistic rhetoric thrown in
ignore the theory and evidence that have shown its better
???
no profit because its evil
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Jul 27 2017 10:11am
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childish dig at invisible hand, hoping readers dont understand what it actually means
pretend its a big safety hazard, with anti-capitalistic rhetoric thrown in
ignore the theory and evidence that have shown its better
???
no profit because its evil


pretend making everything private literally cures everything
???
profit and only profit
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Jul 27 2017 10:13am
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pretend making everything private literally cures everything
???
profit and only profit


Cash rules everything around me
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Jul 27 2017 10:16am
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pretend making everything private literally cures everything
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profit and only profit

never did that, but its clearly shown to have worked in other countries and addresses a real problem.

but hey as long as we make some childish anticapitalistic dig at people who know more about what they are talking about then we do then can we pat ourselves on the back and call it a day. argument won. got eem.

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yeah privatize is super scary. we dont want better air traffic control anyways.


"better" ha.

Part of the ATC system is already privatized since 2005. Lockheed Martin took over flight service station ATC functions. They got rid of 2/3rds of the former Federal workforce and their FS21 system caused major havoc with the rest of the tower and enroute structure, not including the consolidation and facility closures. It has shown to increase prices and hurt workers most of all. Basically you want to take a job who's bottom line is safety and turn it over to companies whose bottom line is profit and you wonder why people don't take you seriously.

And it's great that you ignored the part about the house taking away customers day in court to attack the "limited gubmint" part.

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"better" ha.

Part of the ATC system is already privatized since 2005. Lockheed Martin took over flight service station ATC functions. They got rid of 2/3rds of the former Federal workforce and their FS21 system caused major havoc with the rest of the tower and enroute structure, not including the consolidation and facility closures. It has shown to increase prices and hurt workers most of all. Basically you want to take a job who's bottom line is safety and turn it over to companies whose bottom line is profit and you wonder why people don't take you seriously.


Just more anti-capitalistic rhetoric and misrepresentations of what the change would entail and its results.
Its shown to have worked with great results in other countries like canada.
but you want to simplify it as privatize bad, government =good safety. in reality there are big problems and we are behind other countries in this regard

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And it's great that you ignored the part about the house taking away customers day in court to attack the "limited gubmint" part.

I didnt take issue with that comment. I took issue with your editorializing the other part as "good news"
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