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Nov 12 2019 12:21pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 12 2019 12:55pm)
If policies will never change and the outcome of elections is irrelevant - why even bother with all of this and post in this sub? I really dont mean this as an offense, I'm genuinely curious: if you have such a hyper-fatalistic view on current politics, why even waste time and energy thinking and posting about it?


Thus the problem with simplistic arguments.

Sure, it's possible that another Trump term results in enough conservative justices to overturn Roe. I still think it's unlikely. But there's a lot of social conservatives who pull the trigger on whoever the Republican nominee is and totally discount the Democratic one every year simply because of abortion. And they've done that for decades, which is completely insane.

I'm not arguing that policies can't change and elections don't matter, just that it's important to think realistically about what a president can do once in office. It's highly unlikely Warren is going to be able to pass any of her big proposals, especially considering the biggest one(Medicare for all) relies on a (likely unconstitutional) wealth tax and comprehensive immigration reform.

Anyway, I like politics and think it's important to stay informed. Plus it's fun to debate certain topics.
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Nov 12 2019 12:23pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 12 2019 12:55pm)
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Now you guys are complaining about Trump nominated judges doing their job instead of being crooked cultists?!? :rofl:


complaining? :huh:

nope. laughing.
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Nov 12 2019 12:28pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 12 2019 01:23pm)
complaining? :huh:

nope. laughing.


:thumbsup: definitely laughing. I actually saw someone call the guy a liberal activist judge earlier.
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Nov 12 2019 12:38pm
Quote (IceMage @ 12 Nov 2019 19:21)
Thus the problem with simplistic arguments.

Sure, it's possible that another Trump term results in enough conservative justices to overturn Roe. I still think it's unlikely. But there's a lot of social conservatives who pull the trigger on whoever the Republican nominee is and totally discount the Democratic one every year simply because of abortion. And they've done that for decades, which is completely insane.

I'm not arguing that policies can't change and elections don't matter, just that it's important to think realistically about what a president can do once in office. It's highly unlikely Warren is going to be able to pass any of her big proposals, especially considering the biggest one(Medicare for all) relies on a (likely unconstitutional) wealth tax and comprehensive immigration reform.

Anyway, I like politics and think it's important to stay informed. Plus it's fun to debate certain topics.


Alright, thanks for clarifying, now I get your point. :)

Honestly, I feel like Trump is also a victim of the unrealistic expectations that he himself had stoked in his supporters. He was never gonna single-handedly seal off the southern border, revert the global free trade paradigm or force China into rethinking its business model.
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Nov 12 2019 12:41pm
Easy way to keep track of politics in the US...


Dems are EVIL.





/e At least in the past decade or so.

This post was edited by Ghot on Nov 12 2019 12:41pm
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Nov 12 2019 12:54pm
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...and properly blames the Dems for it's existence. :D
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Nov 12 2019 01:02pm
centrist Ghot continues to impress group of young men with his reasoned and balanced wisdom.
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Nov 12 2019 01:11pm
"orange man Democrats bad" - Ghot, 2019 :rofl:
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 12 2019 02:11pm)
"orange man Democrats bad" - Ghot, 2019 :rofl:




Well, considering the "orange man bad" fictitious legal argument... it's only fair.
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