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Dec 7 2014 11:44am
Quote (nobrow @ Dec 7 2014 10:31am)
Holding a COE criminally accountable is not holding the corporation accountable and you know that. Also:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101917093

Please be honest with yourself


How is holding the CEO criminally responsible for actions he knowingly allowed his corporation to make not accountability? How is fining corporations millions, or even billions of dollars not holding corporations accountable? I mean, what exactly has to transpire for you to consider corporations responsible for their actions?

You mean there are tax loopholes for those that know how to use them??? I work with a mechanic who in his spare time buys, builds and sells Legos over the internet. He also incorporated himself. At the end of the year, he takes his income tax paid, divides it by the number of hours he spent playing with Legos during the year, and marks it down as wages he paid himself - effectively eliminating his entire income tax burden every year. It's almost as if making lots of loopholes and exceptions in the tax code is ripe for abuse or something!!!

Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 7 2014 11:31am)
Income isn't profit.  I don't get out of taxes just because I spent it all.


But you could if you were smart about it^^^
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Quote (Santara @ Dec 7 2014 11:44am)
How is holding the CEO criminally responsible for actions he knowingly allowed his corporation to make not accountability? How is fining corporations millions, or even billions of dollars not holding corporations accountable? I mean, what exactly has to transpire for you to consider corporations responsible for their actions?

You mean there are tax loopholes for those that know how to use them??? I work with a mechanic who in his spare time buys, builds and sells Legos over the internet. He also incorporated himself. At the end of the year, he takes his income tax paid, divides it by the number of hours he spent playing with Legos during the year, and marks it down as wages he paid himself - effectively eliminating his entire income tax burden every year. It's almost as if making lots of loopholes and exceptions in the tax code is ripe for abuse or something!!!



But you could if you were smart about it^^^


The CEO isn't responsible for every decision the corporation makes. People aren't fined for their actions resulting in death, they are jailed. To think you can jail everyone responsible in a large corporation is silly. If you want to continue this discussion make a new thread I don't want to derail this one.
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http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/141212092057-arms-trade-who-sells-620xa.png


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We're #1!


My biggest questions about the chart are this: Many of those producing arms are nations that restrict the usage of those arms. So what is the deal with nanny states like the UK producing guns their castrated citizens aren't even allowed to own? And why are they allowed to produce things that they don't believe people should own?

It seems like having a legal heroin manufacturing plant in the United States: "well, people can use it somewhere".
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My biggest questions about the chart are this:  Many of those producing arms are nations that restrict the usage of those arms.  So what is the deal with nanny states like the UK producing guns their castrated citizens aren't even allowed to own?  And why are they allowed to produce things that they don't believe people should own?

It seems like having a legal heroin manufacturing plant in the United States:  "well, people can use it somewhere".


BAE Systems. British, and major supplier to the world, including US DoD.
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BAE Systems. British, and major supplier to the world, including US DoD.


That doesn't account for 11% of world gun manufacturing. That 11% is probably enough to provide for the whole US military.
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That doesn't account for 11% of world gun manufacturing.  That 11% is probably enough to provide for the whole US military.


Your chart didn't state small arms, it stated "arms."
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