Quote (IceMage @ 13 Oct 2023 13:06)
Serious questions: do you have social media?
Groups at Harvard and many other universities have put out statements blaming everything on Israel. DSA groups across America and the West have come together with rallies to condemn Israel. BLM Chicago put out an image aligning with "Palestine" by showing an image with a person in a hand glider, a refernce to Hamas flyign into Israel on gliders to rape, kidnap, and murder people at a music concert in Israel. I've seen videos of Jewish people at American universities sobbing because there are rallies going on dedicated to supporting what Hamas did.
I'm missing a bunch. It's so prevalent that I didn't think I had to cite what happened.
i don't have social media accounts and generally don't use it, no, but i talk to a lot of friends, most of which left leaning, about politics - and not one of them is an anti-semite, not one of them was not disgusted by hamas' actions.
that said, in the post i quoted, you claimed that "the left" as a whole advocated the "
killing of jewish infants and civilians" and is generally "anti-semitic". now you say "
they blame everything on israel and condemn them".
do you genuinely not realise how those are not the same? the latter might be too simplistic of a view, which sounds particularly tasteless after an ESCALATION that was initiated by brutal attacks from hamas, but it is NOT what you (as well as many dishonest actors, simply trying to silence criticism of israel's policies) claim it is.
criticising israel is not anti-semitism.
you might disagree with the argument that israel's decades long brutal occupation and oppression of millions of palestinians is the main reason for the radicalisation that lead to the hamas attacks, and the never-ending back and forth of atrocities against both sides' civilian populations, you might subscribe to the racist "they just hate them because it's in their dna" view, but to claim the former is inherently "anti-semitic" and advocating the murder of infants is just blatantly untrue.
i think you are "confusing" being anti-israel's apartheid and occupation policies for being anti-semitic. i doubt those people you talk about have an issue with jewish people in general, they don't burn synagogues or attack jewish people in the street. i doubt they would be silent about the suffering of the palestinian people if israel were a predominantly christian or hindu nation. and frankly, i doubt you are too dumb to realise that.
again, this thread is full of examples. are you an islamophobe? are you in favour of muslim women, children, elderly, and innocent people being slaughtered, ice mage?
This post was edited by fender on Oct 13 2023 10:03am