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Jul 14 2020 04:55pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 14 2020 05:53pm)
He's just going along to get along. Biden's entire life was lived in autopilot.

At least Bernie was a civil rights activist back in the 60's.


I will say that Biden has not been a great leader his entire life. He went along with a lot of things that he shouldn't have.

Still, that's better than a leader who will actively lead in the wrong direction like we currently have.
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Jul 14 2020 05:15pm
Quote (thundercock @ 15 Jul 2020 00:46)
I think this is the official "unifying" platform. Biden undoubtedly tacked left. Obviously this doesn't mean to much b/c a President rarely accomplishes their agenda, but there are some powerful people in Congress who support this. I imagine some of it will be done.

I really want to know how Biden will handle China, Russia, and the EU. The US and the EU really need to band together to curb China's influence.


Dont forget India.

India is a natural enemy of China (both on historic and present-day geopolitical grounds), is a democracy, has a fuckton of potential and a huge, largely untapped consumer market. And they're neither muslim fundamentalists, nor authoritarian pseudo-communists, nor destructive contrarians. On the other hand, if India sided with China, it would be game over for the West. No way we could rein in China's influence in that case.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 14 2020 05:16pm
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Jul 14 2020 07:34pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 14 2020 07:15pm)
Dont forget India.

India is a natural enemy of China (both on historic and present-day geopolitical grounds), is a democracy, has a fuckton of potential and a huge, largely untapped consumer market. And they're neither muslim fundamentalists, nor authoritarian pseudo-communists, nor destructive contrarians. On the other hand, if India sided with China, it would be game over for the West. No way we could rein in China's influence in that case.


India is the largest democracy on earth.
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Jul 14 2020 08:07pm
Electing Biden stops the bleeding. That alone is super positive.

That he has formed the "BIDEN-SANDERS UNITY TASK FORCE" and is taking recommendations for the D platform shows he is trying to unite and not divide the country. That alone would be super positive.

That platform has a structure that can be understood is super positive.

HEALTH

- Re-opening of the Affordable Care Act marketplaces, even outside the normal enrollment system, making it easier for people to buy overage.
- Medicare eligibility at 60, instead of the current 65 years of age.
- A "platinum level" public health care plan with low fees and no deductibles. During the pandemic, low-income people would automatically be enrolled in it at no cost to them.
- Free testing, vaccine and treatment for COVID-19.

CRIMINAL JUSTICE

- End to "the era of mass incarceration" and to the war on drugs, the decriminalization of marijuana and federal legalization of pot for medical use.
- A ban on chokeholds and carotid holds.
- Ending cash bail and withholding of funds to states that continue to use it.

EDUCATION

- Barring for-profit private charter schools from receiving federal funding.
- Establish universal pre-K for children ages 3 and 4 and expand the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit to help families afford child care.

ECONOMY

- Ensure employers provide a minimum of 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave; specifically during the pandemic, establish paid sick leave protections for all workers including contractors, gig workers, domestic workers and self-employed workers.
- Assuring unpaid family caregivers are not punished with lower Social Security benefits because of years spent caring for loved ones.
- A Homeowner and Renter Bill of Rights to protect families from "abusive lenders and landlords." Legal support for wrongful evictions.

IMMIGRATION

- Keep the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals intact, which shields nearly 700,000 immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally as minors from deportation.
- Path to citizenship for nearly 11 million people living in the U.S.
- No eradication of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), but greater accountability for ICE and Customs and Border Patrol for "inhumane and unlawful treatment" of immigrants.

CLIMATE CHANGE
- Eliminating carbon pollution from power plants by 2035.
- 500 million new solar panels and 60,000 made-in-America wind turbines.
- Transition the entire U.S. fleet of 500,000 school buses to U.S.-made, zero emissions alternatives within five years.
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Jul 14 2020 08:10pm
Quote (Giannis @ Jul 14 2020 10:07pm)
Electing Biden stops the bleeding. That alone is super positive.

That he has formed the "BIDEN-SANDERS UNITY TASK FORCE" and is taking recommendations for the D platform shows he is trying to unite and not divide the country. That alone would be super positive.

That platform has a structure that can be understood is super positive.

HEALTH

- Re-opening of the Affordable Care Act marketplaces, even outside the normal enrollment system, making it easier for people to buy overage.
- Medicare eligibility at 60, instead of the current 65 years of age.
- A "platinum level" public health care plan with low fees and no deductibles. During the pandemic, low-income people would automatically be enrolled in it at no cost to them.
- Free testing, vaccine and treatment for COVID-19.

CRIMINAL JUSTICE

- End to "the era of mass incarceration" and to the war on drugs, the decriminalization of marijuana and federal legalization of pot for medical use.
- A ban on chokeholds and carotid holds.
- Ending cash bail and withholding of funds to states that continue to use it.

EDUCATION

- Barring for-profit private charter schools from receiving federal funding.
- Establish universal pre-K for children ages 3 and 4 and expand the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit to help families afford child care.

ECONOMY

- Ensure employers provide a minimum of 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave; specifically during the pandemic, establish paid sick leave protections for all workers including contractors, gig workers, domestic workers and self-employed workers.
- Assuring unpaid family caregivers are not punished with lower Social Security benefits because of years spent caring for loved ones.
- A Homeowner and Renter Bill of Rights to protect families from "abusive lenders and landlords." Legal support for wrongful evictions.

IMMIGRATION

- Keep the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals intact, which shields nearly 700,000 immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally as minors from deportation.
- Path to citizenship for nearly 11 million people living in the U.S.
- No eradication of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), but greater accountability for ICE and Customs and Border Patrol for "inhumane and unlawful treatment" of immigrants.

CLIMATE CHANGE
- Eliminating carbon pollution from power plants by 2035.
- 500 million new solar panels and 60,000 made-in-America wind turbines.
- Transition the entire U.S. fleet of 500,000 school buses to U.S.-made, zero emissions alternatives within five years.


Good plarform.

Any plan in education should include room for charter schools though.
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Jul 14 2020 08:42pm
CRIMINAL JUSTICE

- End to "the era of mass incarceration" and to the war on drugs, the decriminalization of marijuana and federal legalization of pot for medical use.

the guy who wrote the crime bill that caused this now is going run for office again to tell someone else write the bill to stop this xD *LAUGH OUT LOUD*

Thank goodness President Trump passed the First Step Act aimed at undoing some of the damage caused by Biden’s crime bill

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Jul 15 2020 09:21am
Quote (Giannis @ 15 Jul 2020 04:07)
Electing Biden stops the bleeding. That alone is super positive.

That he has formed the "BIDEN-SANDERS UNITY TASK FORCE" and is taking recommendations for the D platform shows he is trying to unite and not divide the country. That alone would be super positive.

That platform has a structure that can be understood is super positive.

HEALTH

- Re-opening of the Affordable Care Act marketplaces, even outside the normal enrollment system, making it easier for people to buy overage.
- Medicare eligibility at 60, instead of the current 65 years of age.
- A "platinum level" public health care plan with low fees and no deductibles. During the pandemic, low-income people would automatically be enrolled in it at no cost to them.
- Free testing, vaccine and treatment for COVID-19.

CRIMINAL JUSTICE

- End to "the era of mass incarceration" and to the war on drugs, the decriminalization of marijuana and federal legalization of pot for medical use.
- A ban on chokeholds and carotid holds.
- Ending cash bail and withholding of funds to states that continue to use it.

EDUCATION

- Barring for-profit private charter schools from receiving federal funding.
- Establish universal pre-K for children ages 3 and 4 and expand the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit to help families afford child care.

ECONOMY

- Ensure employers provide a minimum of 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave; specifically during the pandemic, establish paid sick leave protections for all workers including contractors, gig workers, domestic workers and self-employed workers.
- Assuring unpaid family caregivers are not punished with lower Social Security benefits because of years spent caring for loved ones.
- A Homeowner and Renter Bill of Rights to protect families from "abusive lenders and landlords." Legal support for wrongful evictions.

IMMIGRATION

- Keep the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals intact, which shields nearly 700,000 immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally as minors from deportation.
- Path to citizenship for nearly 11 million people living in the U.S.
- No eradication of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), but greater accountability for ICE and Customs and Border Patrol for "inhumane and unlawful treatment" of immigrants.

CLIMATE CHANGE
- Eliminating carbon pollution from power plants by 2035.
- 500 million new solar panels and 60,000 made-in-America wind turbines.
- Transition the entire U.S. fleet of 500,000 school buses to U.S.-made, zero emissions alternatives within five years.


'b-b-but those are fringe leftist policies that literally no one wants, totally not watered down policies to appease progressives while pleasing his donors by not addressing crucial issues!!1!'
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Jul 15 2020 09:25am
Quote (Skinned @ Jul 14 2020 09:10pm)
Good plarform.

Any plan in education should include room for charter schools though.


100% agree, charter schools arent the boogeyman many people want them to be.
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Jul 15 2020 09:35am
Quote (fender @ 15 Jul 2020 17:21)
'b-b-but those are fringe leftist policies that literally no one wants, totally not watered down policies to appease progressives while pleasing his donors by not addressing crucial issues!!1!'


Defunding charter schools, expanding medicare eligibility by 5 years without explaining how this should be financed, amnesty and a pathway to citizenship for 11+ million illegals, transitioning to fully carbon-free power generation by 2035 - those are far left policies, at least in the American context.

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Jul 15 2020 10:09am
Quote (Giannis @ Jul 14 2020 09:07pm)
Electing Biden stops the bleeding. That alone is super positive.

That he has formed the "BIDEN-SANDERS UNITY TASK FORCE" and is taking recommendations for the D platform shows he is trying to unite and not divide the country. That alone would be super positive.

That platform has a structure that can be understood is super positive.

HEALTH

- Re-opening of the Affordable Care Act marketplaces, even outside the normal enrollment system, making it easier for people to buy overage.
- Medicare eligibility at 60, instead of the current 65 years of age.
- A "platinum level" public health care plan with low fees and no deductibles. During the pandemic, low-income people would automatically be enrolled in it at no cost to them.
- Free testing, vaccine and treatment for COVID-19.

CRIMINAL JUSTICE

- End to "the era of mass incarceration" and to the war on drugs, the decriminalization of marijuana and federal legalization of pot for medical use.
- A ban on chokeholds and carotid holds.
- Ending cash bail and withholding of funds to states that continue to use it.

EDUCATION

- Barring for-profit private charter schools from receiving federal funding.
- Establish universal pre-K for children ages 3 and 4 and expand the Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit to help families afford child care.

ECONOMY

- Ensure employers provide a minimum of 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave; specifically during the pandemic, establish paid sick leave protections for all workers including contractors, gig workers, domestic workers and self-employed workers.
- Assuring unpaid family caregivers are not punished with lower Social Security benefits because of years spent caring for loved ones.
- A Homeowner and Renter Bill of Rights to protect families from "abusive lenders and landlords." Legal support for wrongful evictions.

IMMIGRATION

- Keep the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals intact, which shields nearly 700,000 immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally as minors from deportation.
- Path to citizenship for nearly 11 million people living in the U.S.
- No eradication of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), but greater accountability for ICE and Customs and Border Patrol for "inhumane and unlawful treatment" of immigrants.

CLIMATE CHANGE
- Eliminating carbon pollution from power plants by 2035.
- 500 million new solar panels and 60,000 made-in-America wind turbines.
- Transition the entire U.S. fleet of 500,000 school buses to U.S.-made, zero emissions alternatives within five years.


Man you should check out Milton Friedman, some of those things you posted sound black as sin

The other half made me chuckle because you think theyll get done based on who's president

This post was edited by ssdrmstre on Jul 15 2020 10:10am
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