Learning the truth about the S.O.S. has absolutely nothing to do with being a nazi squazi.
But try telling that to most of PaRD.

I don't understand why you would think I have a problem with calling people stupid. I do it all the time. To understand why people do the things they do, you just look at the minimal necessary assumptions to arrive at their actions. In this case, if you just take the mindset of "oppressed = good, oppressor = bad", and "Hamas = Palestine" then you arrive at their conclusion necessarily.

Yes, student groups at Harvard have the capacity to be very very stupid. As do leadership in social groups like BLM.

Lots of similar lefties said utterly retarded things about Ukraine as well because they see soviet and think "hur dur America bad communism good".

It also doesn't help that there's been a huge amount of propaganda specifically from Israel actively conflating different groups for as long as either of us have been alive. Israel puts a LOT of work into making sure the average person thinks Hamas represents all palestinians. We know that isn't the case because we follow politics with a mindset for details, but most people, even people who fancy themselves as being politically aware, don't do that.

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can you point to some concrete examples of leftists actually advocating for the murdering of jewish infants and civilians? if true, that's ofc despicable, but it's really hard to believe that it is as widespread and generally accepted as you try to make it sound.

judging from just this thread, for example, it simply isn't true. there hasn't been a single "leftist" who hasn't condemned hamas' actions and labeled them as barbaric attacks on innocent civilians. nor have i seen a single leftist celebrate or even advocate the murder of jewish people here.
on the other hand, you have countless (mostly right wing) pro-israel posters who engaged in pretty clear de-humanising, generalising, and outright racist rhetoric, supporting or even promoting the indiscriminate killing of palestinian people, the collective punishment of millions, up to outright genocide: just read the posts of El1te, SlamFkingDunk, WhiteSouned, Landmine, ampoo... that's what actual bigotry and hatred of a whole ethnicity looks like.

that, and my personal conversations with friends and acquaintances, who were all disgusted by hamas' recent terror attacks, make your accusation of "the left" being generally anti-semitic, sound rather ridiculous to me. maybe it's just so radically different in america? again, i'd need some actual evidence though, because from where i stand it just sounds like the boring old silencing strategy that chomsky debunked so eloquently. criticism of israel's policies and actions is not anti-semitism.

just a little thought experiment: do you actually believe that "the left" wouldn't criticise israel if it were a majority christian or hindu country?

I follow several people on the center-left and none of them identified with the hateful, genocidal attitude of these Jew haters on the far-left. They all have expressed the sort of reaction I had to this.

I could go on to explain how leaders of America don't act as pundits praising Israel's enemies for their prowess and criticizing Israel's leaders and people for suffering the most deadly attack since the Holocaust, but it would be lost on you because you seem to have lost your brain around the time Trump came on the scene, as have many others.

Honestly, it's just sad. I really wish you guys could detach from the cult and join the American people in these situations.

How about the guy on page 40 or so who said the people deserved to die because their parents and grandparents were Jewish. He said it in the most despicable way possible, with no room for questioning what he thought.

Doubt that guy advocates for strong border security and pro life policies.

Serious questions: do you have social media?

Groups at Harvard and many other universities have put out statements blaming everything on Israel. DSA groups across America and the West have come together with rallies to condemn Israel. BLM Chicago put out an image aligning with "Palestine" by showing an image with a person in a hand glider, a refernce to Hamas flyign into Israel on gliders to rape, kidnap, and murder people at a music concert in Israel. I've seen videos of Jewish people at American universities sobbing because there are rallies going on dedicated to supporting what Hamas did.

I'm missing a bunch. It's so prevalent that I didn't think I had to cite what happened.

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Frankly, it's so apparent that this sort of skepticism is typically evidence of antisemitism.

Unacceptable.

Curious to know in which measure these bombings are funded by the United States. 50% ? 70%? 90% ?
And today 1 terror attack in France (1 teached stabbed to death) because of this mess.



This post was edited by Meanwhile on Oct 13 2023 06:05am