The reason why cities are given less power is because they produce less than 20% of the raw materials in a society even though they have +80% of the population.

so this chart doesnt destroy your statement ?

I'm watching a magical video to learn more about it

And it just seems like swings states are being represented, while others are not..

Making me want to ask, why it's a brilliant system that monitors itself. How does it do that ?

the issue with the electoral college isnt that states with different population size have a slightly disproportionate amount of electoral votes. the issue is that each state on its own holds a first past the post election. say candidate A wins in states with 271 electoral votes by a 50.1-49.9 margin each time, while losing the remaining states with their 269 electoral votes 10.0-90.0. in that case, candidate A could win the presidency with something like 27% of the popular vote against his opponent with 73% of the vote. realistically, a result like 2016 is probably on the upper end of the distortions which can be expected to be caused by the electoral college, with trump winning a lot of states and electoral votes by thin margins, while losing other states like california big time.

on the other hand, the electoral college forces all candidates to be present and strong in all of america and not just in the population centers in coastal cities. the map of battleground states typically contains a healthy mix of urban-dominated and rural-dominated states. deciding the presidency by a simple nation-wide popular vote would shift the focus of both the campaigns and policy towards the urban population centers on the coasts.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 17 2017 05:43pm

You're missing the point. Cities are a net SPENDER of resources, not a net creator.

In 1800, they produced less than 1% of raw materials but consumed 6%. The comparison is the same over time.

If the legislature produced a good law Trump would sign it, and it probably wouldn't matter who produced it.

The problem now is a ....... Preexisting condition..... A shit Congress.

Congress has been shitty a long time and the policy debacle is on them as far as health care goes. Trump is solely responsible for foreign policy and diplomacy so I'd rather have him focus on that anyway. This shows how truely shitty McConnell and Ryan really are. Pelosi and Schumer kind of suck too because they are now offering any alternative or being loyal opposition. Congress fucking sucks, but they keep getting re-elected.

Here, I'll explain the Electoral College to all you foreigners.

The US has 320 million people. Less than 20% have a bachelor's degree.
The founding fathers, even without this modern data, KNEW that electing a President by popular vote would be a disaster.

So they sat down and came up with a way to give the people an indirect say in who became the President.

They decided to create the Electoral College.

The people of the land, get to directly elect their states senators and representatives. Then those Congressmen, elect the president.
This is a GREAT plan. It puts the election of the President in the hands of the highly educated folks, who were themselves elected by popular vote.

This provides a buffer when electing the President, and at the same time..."reflects" the will of the people, in that they did elect the Congressmen, who then in turn elect the President.


/e

Look at a lot of other countries in the world. They don't elect their leaders by popular vote either.
Most seem to have some system in place that allows for an indirect way to chose who will run their country.

This post was edited by Ghot on Jul 17 2017 05:53pm

Well no, we form compromises and form coalitions. How often does the electoral college deviate from the vote of their represented state ?

Not very often, but when it has... it has been a good thing.

But again, that's not the point. Do you seriously think it would be a good idea to elect the leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world...by popular vote?

always though voting for my president that was deciding the executive governement was a popular vote. Same for my representant, and my mayor.............


But for U.S you dont have to worry much anyway, since your vote system is based on "raw materials" below:



the "raw materials" voting joke.

btw im pretty sure alot of "raw material" is produced close where most of population is living btw, meaning in urban areas, Einstein.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jul 17 2017 06:03pm