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Jul 13 2017 10:29pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 13 2017 11:27pm)
It is in this case. Marx created all of his philosophies out of self projection.

ie: He didn't pay any of his interns, yet he created an entire philosophy to blame other people for not getting paid. Its really comical when you look at the story of his life.


You have no idea what his philosophy is though. You're talking out of your ass.

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Jul 13 2017 10:36pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 13 2017 10:27pm)
It is in this case. Marx created all of his philosophies out of self projection.

ie: He didn't pay any of his interns, yet he created an entire philosophy to blame other people for not getting paid. Its really comical when you look at the story of his life.


The right loves their fallacies
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Jul 13 2017 10:40pm
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You have no idea what his philosophy is though. You're talking out of your ass.


I've read the Manifesto.

Marx used the second law of thermodynamics to justify killing people. Its a pretty hilarious read.
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Jul 13 2017 10:44pm
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first of all, plz look up what "acknowledging" means - i'm not talking about a "minor linguistic vagueness", but about someone completely redefining a word and pivoting hard from their original statement, just because they can't seem to admit they were plain WRONG.
that is not my fault. there is PLENTY of evidence that obama not only used words (like trump so far), but took concrete action and addressed the topic multiple times, including a serious warning to trump about HOW big of an issue it really is.

your whole narrative is so obviously moronic that i seriously cringe when you now try to pass it off as a "minor linguistic vagueness" - plz don't insult your own intelligence like that, we both know what this is...
seriously, the hoops you are willing to jump through to defend this... i get it, you love trump, but do you honestly not realise how stupid this makes you look? and i'm not even trying to insult you, i know without emotions and pride involved, if it concerned the other side, you would very much be able to see it, you seem to be a reasonably smart guy, generally speaking... but on this one... ouch!



and here i thought you couldn't sink any lower...


isnt that whole ragepost ironic coming from heinrich von goebbels zu kristallnacht, kaiser schutzstaffel!
you just spent last week smashing windows in hamburg trying to recreate the night of the broken glass!


plus theres these of course:

Quote (fender @ 12 Dec 2016 09:11)
FFS
YOU'RE NOT A BIGOT FOR POINTING OUT PROBLEMS OR HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION, YOU'RE A BIGOT FOR MAKING BIGOTED STATEMENTS!

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otamendi... looks like de bruyne's pathetic card waving in the 1st half payed off already... what a bunch of faggots...

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75018691&f=205&p=509519356

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call me heinrich, nazi, bigot, homophobe, anti-turk



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brainwashed monkeys, haha...


e: reported, btw

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Quote (Skinned @ Jul 14 2017 03:15am)
Elevating social class = exacerbating false consciousness.

Had to throw in some Marxist theory. I'm gonna make a Marxism thread tomorrow if I get a chance to talk about some of the concepts. I don't know if I'll get to it, because I'm doing to motherfucking Eldora Speedway for some sprinter car madness in the Kings Royal :)

http://www.eldoraspeedway.com/

If any of you guys come I'll buy you a beer :thumbsup: Bring earplugs and goggles....it is basically hillbilly mad max.



Labour theory of value is such a flawed concept, Marx is overrated
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Jul 14 2017 01:40am
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Labour theory of value is such a flawed concept, Marx is overrated


yeah it makes absolutely no sense
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Jul 14 2017 02:52am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 13 2017 10:36pm)
The right loves their fallacies


Don't think it's a left vs right thing. Pretty sure it's the whole spectrum if this sub-forum of self-proclaimed intellectuals is anything to go off of.

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Jul 14 2017 04:21am
Donald J Trump: The first black president

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/14/don-king-donald-trump-black-man-215362

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KING: I tell him that the establishment will tell their lies. They will try to keep him down. ... I tell him, ‘Now Mr. Trump, they’re treating you like a black man.’... I say, ‘Mr. President, you know what it’s like to be a black man. ...No matter what you say or do, you are guilty as hell.’
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Jul 14 2017 05:34am
Quote (dro94 @ Jul 14 2017 02:36am)
Labour theory of value is such a flawed concept, Marx is overrated


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yeah it makes absolutely no sense


It's not bad for being one of the first economic theories ever made. Marx turned the art of political-economy into sciences of sociology, economics, and political science. He is as imports t as Adam Smith as far as the birth of economics as a unique discipline.

Yea, in most cases the original theories are flawed. But he is the father of modern social sciences like economics.

It would be pretend to think that labor isn't important in establishing value. Everything from the scarcity of the commodity to the cost of retrieving it is considered.

But the first theories in most disciplines have problems, correct.

The main theory is dialectical materialism. And it is spot on.

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It's not bad for being one of the first economic theories ever made. Marx turned the art of political-economy into sciences of sociology, economics, and political science. He is as imports t as Adam Smith as far as the birth of economics as a unique discipline.

Yea, in most cases the original theories are flawed. But he is the father of modern social sciences like economics.

It would be pretend to think that labor isn't important in establishing value. Everything from the scarcity of the commodity to the cost of retrieving it is considered.

But the first theories in most disciplines have problems, correct.

The main theory is dialectical materialism. And it is spot on.


Bloodletting was pretty cutting-edge at the time too.

Bloodletting killed far less people than Communism, though.

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