Quote (fender @ 13 Jul 2017 22:23)
you seem to know quite a lot of details about the nk missile program if you can positively say the attacks "clearly did not work"... so they didn't buy more time / set them back / increased their problems / lead to fails? where do you know that from?
experts doubt the effectiveness of this approach. to quote the article that you linked:
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While advocates of such efforts believe that targeted attacks have given American antimissile defenses a new edge and delayed by several years the day when North Korea will be able to threaten American cities with nuclear weapons launched atop intercontinental ballistic missiles, other experts have grown increasingly skeptical of the new approach, arguing that manufacturing errors, disgruntled insiders and sheer incompetence can also send missiles awry. In other words, something is causing the crashes, but US cyberspies is just one of the possible factors.
so some experts thought the cyberattacks were a success, but as time went on, others have grown
increasingly skeptical.
and the recent, successful 2017 missile launches from NK prove that those cyberattacks, if they have actually taken place, didnt prevent NK from advancing its missile technology. and I wanna emphasize: ... from advancing their technology at a higher pace than during the decade before.
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also, the way you're trying to downplay everything obama did does not magically hide the fact that you originally claimed he did not even acknowledge the threat, haha... but keep spinning your propaganda, it's quite amusing to see you desperately try to defend your alternative facts...
I dont deny that obama was aware of the NK missile problem. what I doubt is that he was acknowledging NK as an imminent threat that had and still has to be dealt with as soon as possible.
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so... "just words"?
words which had real world consequences. unlike the words of babbling obama.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-un-idUSKBN18T2X3Quote
The U.N. Security Council on Friday expanded targeted sanctions against North Korea after its repeated missile tests, adopting the first such resolution agreed by the United States and Pyongyang's only major ally China since President Donald Trump took office.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/06/donald-trump-china-north-korea-215343Quote
Last week, the Trump administration imposed sanctions on a Chinese bank accused of money laundering for North Korea as well as two Chinese individuals and a Chinese company accused of sanctions evasion. In the past 13 months, the U.S. government has identified the disturbing extent to which Chinese banks help North Korea leverage the U.S. financial system to evade sanctions. From 2009 to 2016, North Korea used the Chinese banking system (including Hong Kong) to process at least $296.12 million in illicit financial transactions through the U.S. financial system.
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These disclosures make it painfully clear how North Korea continues to exploit the U.S. financial system and China’s deliberate failure to enforce sanctions. When such embarrassing information comes to light, Beijing relies on a carefully choreographed diplomatic dance to pacify and distract Washington.
Here’s how it usually works: First, China issues a tough statement blaming the United States and North Korea for failing to negotiate while sounding out tougher U.N. sanctions. Yet China will never allow the U.N. to sanction Chinese entities and individuals, even though the U.N.’s own Panel of Experts has clearly identified its role in evading sanctions. Instead, Beijing likely will support a new restriction on oil exports to Pyongyang but only with enough loopholes to make the “sanction” ineffective. China will not support strong sanctions because it fears instability in North Korea even more than it fears a nuclear Kim regime.
so, chinese banks have for years helped undermine the UN embargo and the sanctions on north korea. the chinese government has deliberately backed them politically. now, for the first time, the trump administration has imposed unilateral sanctions on a
chinese banik accused of working with the north koreans. they intentionally chose a small chinese bank to begin with, so that it's a message to the chinese government that trump means business and will not allow this charade to continue.
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/13/trump-administration-prepares-new-sanctions-on-chinese-firms-over-north-korea-ties/23028562/Quote
Frustrated that China has not done more to rein in North Korea, the Trump administration could impose new sanctions on small Chinese banks and other firms doing business with Pyongyang within weeks, two senior U.S. officials said.
The U.S. measures would initially hit Chinese entities considered "low-hanging fruit," including smaller financial institutions and "shell" companies linked to North Korea's nuclear and missile programs, said one of the officials, while declining to name the targets.
It would leave larger Chinese banks untouched for now, the official said.
The timing and scope of the U.S. action will depend heavily on how China responds to pressure for tougher steps against North Korea when U.S. and Chinese officials meet for a high-level economic dialog in Washington on Wednesday, the administration sources told Reuters.
so, to sum it up: in march, trump was meeting with chinese president xi jinping at mar-a-lago and tried to persuade him to finally rein in north korea. this didnt work, as evidenced by NK's july 4th missile launch. since then, he has achieved the first joint UN security council resoluition against NK's missile program by both the USA and china. his administration has started imposing sanctions on chinese banks that undermine the sanctions against NK. there are plans to expand these sanctions against chinese NK-collaborators. he is clearly putting the chinese side under the screws so that they finally stop sabotaging the international sanctions against north korea and finally rein them in.
a clear and straight approach by trump, and unlike obama, he's backing up his verbal threats with actions. but I guess for some, it's easier to dwell in the liberal narrative that trump is a clueless, rude, aggressive madman who will set the world on fire on the first occasion.
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 13 2017 03:06pm
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