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Nov 11 2019 04:49pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 11 2019 12:27pm)
How does Trump's foreign policy hurt her chances of becoming the Republican nominee in 2024?

If anything, her generally praised stint at the UN should give her extra credibility on foreign policy.
And the ability to reassure irritated allies and restore international confidence in the U.S. should gain in importance for primary voters the more Trump behaves like a bull in a china shop. So the more Trump fucks up on this front, the more it should help Haley over Pence.


I think it really depends on if Trump wins in 2020. The Ukraine scandal makes me think that he'll lose simply because his margin of victory was already razor thin. If even 10% of SWING voters reached their breaking point, he's done for. Right now, I'd say he has a 55-60% chance of losing. Obviously that could change given the state of the economy, the Democratic nominee, how public testimony goes with impeachment, etc.

Haley, right now, is tied to Trump for better or for worse. If Trump loses in 2020, I imagine that the GOP will want to "clean house" so to speak. People like Pence, Pompeo, Haley, etc. might be politically toxic.
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Nov 11 2019 05:30pm
Quote (balrog66 @ Nov 11 2019 01:39pm)
Where's her birth certificate?





Right here... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Haley
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Nov 11 2019 06:15pm
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1. Anyone can edit that. You're probably the one who made it seem like she was American..
2. That's not Reuters.
3. We need the long, official form of her birth certificate. Otherwise she is disqualified.
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Nov 11 2019 06:29pm
Quote (thundercock @ 11 Nov 2019 19:15)
1. Anyone can edit that. You're probably the one who made it seem like she was American..
2. That's not Reuters.
3. We need the long, official form of her birth certificate. Otherwise she is disqualified.



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Nov 11 2019 08:03pm
Quote (thundercock @ Nov 11 2019 01:28pm)
I had my money on her to be the nominee in 2024. However, Trump's foreign policy became so toxic over the past few months that I think it's beginning to hurt her. Maybe America will forget by then.


Foreign policy is low on the care list for most voters
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Nov 11 2019 08:09pm
Guys I'm sorry but this is unacceptable. The President of the United States of America just unambiguously used his office as president to improperly influence and rig an election
He send out a clear call to his supporters to engage in ballot stuffing
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1194065765273653249

This post was edited by Goomshill on Nov 11 2019 08:10pm
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Guys I'm sorry but this is unacceptable. The President of the United States of America just unambiguously used his office as president to improperly influence and rig an election
He send out a clear call to his supporters to engage in ballot stuffing
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1194065765273653249


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Nov 11 2019 09:36pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Nov 11 2019 09:09pm)
Guys I'm sorry but this is unacceptable. The President of the United States of America just unambiguously used his office as president to improperly influence and rig an election
He send out a clear call to his supporters to engage in ballot stuffing
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1194065765273653249


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Nov 11 2019 09:49pm
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its deleted plz post pic


Trump officially lost the 2019 election.

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Nov 12 2019 12:46am
Quote (thundercock @ 11 Nov 2019 23:49)
I think it really depends on if Trump wins in 2020. The Ukraine scandal makes me think that he'll lose simply because his margin of victory was already razor thin. If even 10% of SWING voters reached their breaking point, he's done for. Right now, I'd say he has a 55-60% chance of losing. Obviously that could change given the state of the economy, the Democratic nominee, how public testimony goes with impeachment, etc.

Haley, right now, is tied to Trump for better or for worse. If Trump loses in 2020, I imagine that the GOP will want to "clean house" so to speak. People like Pence, Pompeo, Haley, etc. might be politically toxic.


I see your point, but I gotta disagree.

1.: Haley in my opinion jumped ship just in time so that she can wash her hands of responsibility.
2.: The GOP cleaning house if Trump loses in 2020. I dont doubt that the GOP establishment would want to do that, but at the end of the day, the energy within the party's base is still with the 'trumpy' crowds and not with the Romneys or JEB! Bushes.

The second point can of course change if things really go south for Trump during the imeachment hearings, or if he loses in 2020 in a real landslide. But if he narrowly loses in 2020, I dont think that his realignment of the GOP agenda would go anywhere, whether the RNC and the Kochs like it or not. Imho, the future of the Republican party are candidates like Josh Hawley who run on a similar platform as Trump, but are less erratic and divise than him.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 12 2019 12:47am
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