Quote (thundercock @ Nov 4 2020 11:02am)
The +17 WaPo one was wrong. I think we need to wait for ALL votes to be counted before making the claim that the polls were wrong. I will concede that some states were way the fuck off though. I can understand Florida being off because underestimating Latino enthusiasm is one thing and it's regional. How do you nail MN but fuck up so badly in similar demographic states? Will they do studies on rejected ballots to see if that had an impact? How will they quantify enthusiasm if the polls in general are wrong? Lots and lots to dissect.
Also, Nate Silver says Trump might get more votes than Obama did in 2008 so I hope he rubs it in Hussein Obama bin Laden's face.
the issue is the question is always "how do we fix polls" instead of "how much do we base our reporting on polls".
i realize its not easy to get in on the ground level and feel out a battleground state, but they seem to be able to spend HUNDREDS of hours phone interviewing people for Russiagate, Hunter's Laptop, etc.
Put less money into phone screen pollsters, and more into actually getting into the heads of local people on the ground level. these local number proxie'd phone screeners didnt fool me or anyone i know, no one picked up a single call or responded to a single text.