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Nov 10 2019 07:11pm
Quote (thundercock @ Nov 10 2019 07:25pm)
Her real name is "Nimrata" and her maiden name is "Randhawa." I dunno, just seems like Obama all over again and we know how well that went.
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/indiawest.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/01/301220ee-6f59-11e4-b9f8-5356ae16395f/546b9e388f6e6.image.jpg





But she's Indian/American. Grew up in the US. None of that matters though. What does matter is that she takes no shyt from anyone, and has pretty damn good ideas.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nikki-haley-reveals-tillerson-kelly-privately-discussed-resisting-trump-it-was-offensive

Interesting perspective from Nikki Haley, the 'adult in the room' during palace intrigue;

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Former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Nikki Haley blasted former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, recalling a private conversation where they defended resisting President Trump, telling her they did so out of necessity.
Haley told "CBS Evening News" anchor Norah O’Donnell that she did not appreciate having the former officials confide in her, as she described in her new book, “With All Due Respect.”
"Instead of saying that to me, they should've been saying that to the president, not asking me to join them on their sidebar plan," Haley said.
Haley said that the two men “confided in me that when they resisted the president, they weren't being insubordinate, they were trying to save the country” and how “Tillerson went on to tell me the reason he resisted the president's decisions was because, if he didn't, people would die…."
Haley, however, was not impressed.
“It should've been, 'Go tell the president what your differences are, and quit if you don't like what he's doing,'” Haley told O’Donnell. “But to undermine a president is really a very dangerous thing. And it goes against the Constitution, and it goes against what the American people want. And it was offensive."


She's got the right of it. Kelly and Tillerson should have hashed out their policy differences with the president and tried to convince him, not undermine him. If they couldn't, then they should have fucked off earlier or fallen in line. That's how command works. Sometimes Presidents make the wrong call and it does indeed cost lives, sometimes presidents make the right call against what their advisors were saying. And for people as opinionated on foreign affairs as Kelly & Tillerson, those legitimate policy differences could span miles. Did Barack Obama's top officials seek to undermine and avert his interventions into Yemen or Libya or funneling weapons into Syria? It cost 400,000+ lives. People give Obama flak for the drone program where we managed losses, but some of the worst humanitarian disasters since the Cold War happened due to Obama's missteps. Understandable missteps from deliberative policy decisions, where many people in expensive suits with fancy titles all thought it was the right thing to do. And they were wrong. Should someone have conspired behind Obama's back to stop the wars, or should they have voiced their complaints to his face and resigned if he refused? Or is the reality that there was nobody in Obama's cabinet with a dissenting voice and a spine to match it

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nikki-haley-reveals-tillerson-kelly-privately-discussed-resisting-trump-it-was-offensive

Interesting perspective from Nikki Haley, the 'adult in the room' during palace intrigue;



She's got the right of it. Kelly and Tillerson should have hashed out their policy differences with the president and tried to convince him, not undermine him. If they couldn't, then they should have fucked off earlier or fallen in line. That's how command works. Sometimes Presidents make the wrong call and it does indeed cost lives, sometimes presidents make the right call against what their advisors were saying. And for people as opinionated on foreign affairs as Kelly & Tillerson, those legitimate policy differences could span miles. Did Barack Obama's top officials seek to undermine and avert his interventions into Yemen or Libya or funneling weapons into Syria? It cost 400,000+ lives. People give Obama flak for the drone program where we managed losses, but some of the worst humanitarian disasters since the Cold War happened due to Obama's missteps. Understandable missteps from deliberative policy decisions, where many people in expensive suits with fancy titles all thought it was the right thing to do. And they were wrong. Should someone have conspired behind Obama's back to stop the wars, or should they have voiced their complaints to his face and resigned if he refused? Or is the reality that there was nobody in Obama's cabinet with a dissenting voice and a spine to match it


She seems like one of the good guys. Even though i disagree with her on many things i think she's head and shoulders above anyone in that field. Would be nice if she got the nomination.

I'm curious what the pollsters think of her in a general. An attractive female that served in the military. I can't see how she wouldn't be an attractive candidate in the general.
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Nov 10 2019 08:08pm
Pretty sure a Female Minority Republican candidate breaks any models they have and puts you into uncharted territory
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Nov 10 2019 11:49pm
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She seems like one of the good guys. Even though i disagree with her on many things i think she's head and shoulders above anyone in that field. Would be nice if she got the nomination.

I'm curious what the pollsters think of her in a general. An attractive female that served in the military. I can't see how she wouldn't be an attractive candidate in the general.


Haley would be the perfect GOP candidate in 2024 to win back the suburbs, although she would probably lose some of the overwhelming margins Republicans are getting in rural parts of the country under Trump. Would probably be a good tradeoff for the GOP in the House and for their position in state legislatures. Dunno about the presidential race though. As long as the Rust Belt states and Florida are the decisive states in the EC, 'Trumpism' should hold a big advantage there.

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Nov 11 2019 06:06am
Quote (thundercock @ Nov 10 2019 07:25pm)
Her real name is "Nimrata" and her maiden name is "Randhawa." I dunno, just seems like Obama all over again and we know how well that went.
https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/indiawest.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/01/301220ee-6f59-11e4-b9f8-5356ae16395f/546b9e388f6e6.image.jpg



Get outta here she’s perfect
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Nov 11 2019 12:28pm
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Get outta here she’s perfect


I had my money on her to be the nominee in 2024. However, Trump's foreign policy became so toxic over the past few months that I think it's beginning to hurt her. Maybe America will forget by then.
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Nov 11 2019 12:30pm
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I had my money on her to be the nominee in 2024. However, Trump's foreign policy became so toxic over the past few months that I think it's beginning to hurt her. Maybe America will forget by then.





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Nov 11 2019 12:39pm
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Where's her birth certificate?
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Nov 11 2019 02:27pm
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I had my money on her to be the nominee in 2024. However, Trump's foreign policy became so toxic over the past few months that I think it's beginning to hurt her. Maybe America will forget by then.


How does Trump's foreign policy hurt her chances of becoming the Republican nominee in 2024?

If anything, her generally praised stint at the UN should give her extra credibility on foreign policy.
And the ability to reassure irritated allies and restore international confidence in the U.S. should gain in importance for primary voters the more Trump behaves like a bull in a china shop. So the more Trump fucks up on this front, the more it should help Haley over Pence.

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