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Nov 20 2014 12:38am
Quote (PixileDust @ Nov 20 2014 01:20am)
If only tax payers voted:

http://www.davidmcelroy.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/What-if-only-taxpayers-voted.jpg

Tax payers make up 1/3 of the population


So 2/3rd's of people don't pay taxes?

Must be legit because they made a nice confusing graphic....
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Nov 20 2014 12:49am
Quote (card_sultan @ Nov 20 2014 12:38am)
So 2/3rd's of people don't pay taxes?

Must be legit because they made a nice confusing graphic....


source of graph: cnn

source of 1/3 statistic: http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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Nov 20 2014 12:55am
Quote (card_sultan @ Nov 20 2014 01:38am)
So 2/3rd's of people don't pay taxes?

Must be legit because they made a nice confusing graphic....


well anyone under 18 or retired doesnt pay income tax afaik
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Nov 20 2014 01:03am
Quote (PixileDust @ Nov 20 2014 01:49am)
source of graph: cnn

source of 1/3 statistic: http://www.usdebtclock.org/

tyvm


the debt clock makes no mention of how many people don't pay taxes

so can I assume you just made up that #?

And concerning that Graphic without any context , those numbers don't mean anything

it just a picture. Even if it had context - it would still be very unclear as to what its showing.

Quote (Voyaging @ Nov 20 2014 01:55am)
well anyone under 18 or retired doesnt pay income tax afaik


hes just saying "taxes" , not just income tax

also the debt clock says 154 million in work force - so maybe he thinks USA population is 154x3 = 450 million?

anyway - 18 trillion in Debt - like thats ever going to get paid off, lol.

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Quote (PixileDust @ Nov 20 2014 01:20am)
If only tax payers voted:

http://www.davidmcelroy.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/What-if-only-taxpayers-voted.jpg

Tax payers make up 1/3 of the population


this include payroll taxes?
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Nov 20 2014 01:08am
Quote (Voyaging @ 20 Nov 2014 01:55)
well anyone under 18 or retired doesnt pay income tax afaik


actually, social security income is taxed. So is disability once you reach 65, iirc.
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Nov 20 2014 01:08am
Quote (Cellmat @ Nov 20 2014 02:08am)
actually, social security income is taxed.  So is disability once you reach 65, iirc.


yeah but is that counted as income tax?

Quote (card_sultan @ Nov 20 2014 02:03am)
the debt clock makes no mention of how many people don't pay taxes

so can I assume you just made up that #?

And concerning that Graphic without any context , those numbers don't mean anything

it just a picture. Even if it had context - it would still be very unclear as to what its showing.


on the right of the debt clock thing it shows us citizens and us income taxpayers

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Nov 20 2014 01:12am
Quote (Voyaging @ 20 Nov 2014 02:08)
yeah but is that counted as income tax?


well.. it's added to your AGI and taxed the same as any other income, so..yes?
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Nov 20 2014 01:13am
Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 20 2014 02:03am)
this include payroll taxes?


theres also property taxes, dividend taxes. sales tax, estate tax, gas tax, etc etc.

if 2/3rds of people are avoiding all taxes , i want some info on how they do that.


oh i see the number

Its actually closer to 37% , but thats just referring to income tax.

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Nov 20 2014 05:05pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Nov 20 2014 12:55am)
well anyone under 18 or retired doesnt pay income tax afaik


Anyone under 18 can't vote...


Quote (card_sultan @ Nov 20 2014 01:13am)
theres also property taxes, dividend taxes. sales tax, estate tax, gas tax, etc etc.

if 2/3rds of people are avoiding all taxes , i want some info on how they do that.


oh i see the number

Its actually closer to 37% , but thats just referring to income tax.


This is a federal election I am talking about, so it only makes mention of federal taxes..

37% of all people don't pay taxes. 50% of all people between the ages 15 and 65 do not pay taxes. (People younger than 15 make up 20% of the population, and people older than 65 make up 14%, some of which pay taxes of course.)

The point of the matter is that most Democrat support comes from people who contribute nothing to the federal government. As you can see from this (aforementioned) cnn graph:



Can you believe it? California would be red.

This post was edited by PixileDust on Nov 20 2014 05:12pm
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