Quote (Santara @ Mar 7 2016 12:57pm)
This is greater than zero. Thanks for playing.
You would, but they don't give a fuck how many non-citizens vote, so long as they vote for Democrats.
Had some time to read further and found this gem which you glossed over.
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Nearly three quarters of the non-citizens who indicated they were asked to provide photo identification at the polls claimed to have subsequently voted.
In other words voter ID by your same source is ineffective. That's good to know (we have known that for a long time though).
For the record, I don't doubt there's some instances of non citizens voting. It would be an anomaly if there weren't. I think he meant there aren't many who vote.
Here's a few more things I found that were interesting
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"There are obvious limitations to our research, which one should take account of when interpreting the results. Although the CCES sample is large, the non-citizen portion of the sample is modest, with the attendant uncertainty associated with sampling error. We analyze only 828 self-reported non-citizens."
This is another example of what I said about the authors hyping results. 828 self-reported non-citizens is not a "modest" sample size. It's pathetically tiny. I understand that it's the data they got from this survey, but it's definitely not something we can draw national conclusions from.
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Finally, extrapolation to specific state-level or district-level election outcomes is fraught with substantial uncertainty. It is obviously possible that non-citizens in California are more likely to vote than non-citizens in North Carolina, or vice versa. Thus, we are much more confident that non-citizen votes mattered for the Minnesota Senate race (a turnout of little more than one-tenth of our adjusted estimate is all that would be required) than that non-citizen votes changed the outcome in North Carolina.
They admit it as well, while NC may have been affected due to the ridiculously close margins, on the whole we cannot use the data to understand if other races were swayed.
This post was edited by Thor123422 on Mar 7 2016 04:17pm