There are plenty of explanations, just as there are plenty of religious explanations that don't involve a Christian god. None of them are sufficiently probable, including yours.

This post was edited by belthasar on Mar 16 2026 07:20pm

watch this if you want to see a high rated 'atheist go full kook genetic fallacy

I dont think I've seen this, I'll watch later

Dawkins the great fool of the 20th century, whose ideas led directly to normalizing transgenderism.

What is the genetic fallacy here? I dont think you guys even know what the words youre using mean lol

Bible says god created Adam and eve, heavens and earth, makes no mention of zyxsxgy and fjfjfjksks on planet zbrju. Wouldn't these other intelligent beings kind of invalidate our uniquely being created in God's image as per desert story?

Also unrelated question, if God set the conditions of the universe into motion and has omniscient and omnipotent ability to know all outcomes of all conditions before they were set in motion, how do you reconcile that with the Christian belief in free will? In other words, if i dial 911 on my phone and i get the emergency services, where is the phone able to exercise free will? I dont see how you can have an all knowing diety operating deterministically while still maintaining this idea that humans are choosing whether to believe or not. It seems under your system youd have to believe that the majority of humans were created by your god and that he knew they would live and die without believing in him, and he could have just set up the conditions of their lives such that they would believe, but didnt so they could have "free will" despite knowing the outcome of these lives and that they would be eternally seperated from this god. Again, he knows these outcomes before the universe is even created and could have prevented them. All the worst things you can think of could have just not happened. A god who set these conditions into motion with knowledge of how they will turn out is culpable for them. In other words, if your god is real, he has done terrible things that I wont put into words here.

you could look it up?

you have a choice to make, choose wisly

Every single time someone has come to me with a supposed contradiction, all I've had to do is read the text in it's full context. For some strange reason, you people never learn your lesson.

Also those are not your own arguments as we have established you have copy pasted and most likely didn't even read what you were pasting. You personally have never tried to walk with God or try to understand God.

Again why do you cry contradiction without first trying to understand the text? Why don't you instead ask for an explanation and show what you have done to try to understand the text?

I'll tell you why, you are not interested in the truth. As a matter of fact the truth scares you so much that you want to deny it by any means necessary.

You absolutely fear Colossians 1:15-18 ESV because you don't want to accept Jesus as your LORD.

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16 For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17 And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent.

So no actual rebuttal to the contradictions just more shooting messengers.
They have been read in full context you are just refusing to see them as contradictions and start performing mental gymnastics in order to rationalize them. Even if you have to make assumptions like you did with Jacob and Heli.
I asked before do you believe in contradictions in general or contradictions do not exist and everything can be explained depending how you look at it? In which case everything can be rationalize including all the other gods and goddesses.

I mean its not like a "look it up" answer, each person will have a different way to justify the incongruence between these two elements of scripture. If god sets conditions in motion with advanced knowledge of all causative effects then he is essentially doing the thing. So either he knowingly created the conditions for children to be abused or hes not all-knowing. Most Christians when confronted with this will say something like "god works in mysterious ways" yes very mysterious that this god create a child knowing that they will be sexually abused by one of his priests

You seem to be struggling with the separation of God's knowledge and free will.

God's knowledge and your choices in life are separate things. He knows what you will freely choose. This argument of "if God already knows my outcome then what's the point"?

You are in the present and can freely choose your outcome and how you live this life here on Earth. If you choose to live by faith and have Jesus as your lord and saviour putting his truth above all things God will have knowledge of that. If you choose to live by your flesh and selfish desires separating yourself from his truth God will have knowledge of that.

You still have a choice.

i meant why not just look up genetic fallacy

next time you end up in traffic court tell the judge you "i cant help but do traffic violations, i just dont have any free will" and the judge will think your full of it
so? whats the real reason you reject God?

it wouldnt be "one of his priests" saying stuff like that is filth,, it would be the enemy in sheeps clothing. like it says in scripture

Matthew 7:15
“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”

King James Version (KJV)