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Jul 11 2017 10:48am
Quote (terry @ Jul 11 2017 12:44pm)
facts are now repugnant

in other news, youtube is pushing more liberal degeneracy
http://i.imgur.com/wwBAgvc.png
http://i.imgur.com/ZUW8LFX.png
http://i.imgur.com/48CuC8f.png


What the fuck.
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Jul 11 2017 10:49am
Quote (zarkadon @ 11 Jul 2017 18:41)
That's totally taken out of context though. When asked about why there wasn't a "Marshall Plan" for Africa that would give the governments billions to develop infrastructures, he said that there is no point in injecting that money in a region that is swarmed by corruption, war, political inestability, etc. He said that first you need to fix these issues, sort out demographics, create a structured civilization, improve security/justice (to avoid rapes) and health/education (to increase the use of condomns) in order to avoid the inestability caused by women having 7-8 kids, etc. And that help from the west should focus on that, and not just handing out money.

Here's a video (in french) of him actually giving the speech (well, extracts of it; I couldn't find the full version):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb2uPD2UPV4


a good speech, I actually agree with all his points.
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Jul 11 2017 10:51am
Quote (terry @ Jul 11 2017 04:44pm)
facts are now repugnant

in other news, youtube is pushing more liberal degeneracy
http://i.imgur.com/wwBAgvc.png
http://i.imgur.com/ZUW8LFX.png
http://i.imgur.com/48CuC8f.png


:mellow:
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Jul 11 2017 10:54am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jul 11 2017 12:48pm)
What the fuck.

Quote (Warlock316 @ Jul 11 2017 12:51pm)
:mellow:

it's one of the top trending videos on (((you)))tube currently
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Jul 11 2017 10:57am
Quote (excellence @ 11 Jul 2017 18:43)
of course it is, but when has that ever stopped anyone running with it?

a lot of people fell for mainstream media cry: Trump "told the russians" to 'hack' a server that had been disconnected for years :rofl:


Well, one side doing it doesn't mean the other side should too. I'm not picking sides here, I stand with the truth, and if I see something that I know is wrong then I point it out.

One of the most worrying things in today's world is that people have lost the ability or will to exercise critical thinking. When they hear what they want to hear they take it for granted and refuse to question it.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 11 Jul 2017 18:49)
a good speech, I actually agree with all his points.


Me too. You can't start a building from the roof... the best way to help Africa is addressing their immediate needs/concerns and help create a foundation for development to actually take place; not mindlessly throwing money at them or trying to solve the problems we see from a first world perspective.
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Jul 11 2017 11:00am
Quote (terry @ Jul 11 2017 11:44am)
facts are now repugnant

in other news, youtube is pushing more liberal degeneracy
http://i.imgur.com/wwBAgvc.png
http://i.imgur.com/ZUW8LFX.png
http://i.imgur.com/48CuC8f.png




This post was edited by IceMage on Jul 11 2017 11:00am
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Jul 11 2017 11:47am
Quote (excellence @ 11 Jul 2017 18:17)


Quote (zarkadon @ 11 Jul 2017 18:41)
That's totally taken out of context though. When asked about why there wasn't a "Marshall Plan" for Africa that would give the governments billions to develop infrastructures, he said that there is no point in injecting that money in a region that is swarmed by corruption, war, political inestability, etc. He said that first you need to fix these issues, sort out demographics, create a structured civilization, improve security/justice (to avoid rapes) and health/education (to increase the use of condomns) in order to avoid the inestability caused by women having 7-8 kids, etc. And that help from the west should focus on that, and not just handing out money.

Here's a video (in french) of him actually giving the speech (well, extracts of it; I couldn't find the full version):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb2uPD2UPV4


i am starting to like macron, his ideas to streamline the french state sound appealing and finally a guy with the balls to state the real problem in africa
overpopulation

"create a structured civilization"
i dont agree on this however, thats something people have to build themselves
if we can help with that fine, but its not our job to do it for them and it wouldnt work anyway
africa has to help itself first

Quote (terry @ 11 Jul 2017 18:44)
facts are now repugnant

in other news, youtube is pushing more liberal degeneracy
http://i.imgur.com/wwBAgvc.png
http://i.imgur.com/ZUW8LFX.png
http://i.imgur.com/48CuC8f.png


what the motherfuck

This post was edited by ampoo on Jul 11 2017 11:48am
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Quote (ampoo @ Jul 11 2017 06:47pm)
i am starting to like macron, his ideas to streamline the french state sound appealing and finally a guy with the balls to state the real problem in africa
overpopulation

"create a structured civilization"
i dont agree on this however, thats something people have to build themselves
if we can help with that fine, but its not our job to do it for them and it wouldnt work anyway
africa has to help itself first


come on shampoo, you believe you're superior to africans
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Jul 11 2017 12:07pm
Quote (dro94 @ 11 Jul 2017 19:59)
come on shampoo, you believe you're superior to africans


because we are
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Jul 11 2017 12:18pm
Quote (ampoo @ 11 Jul 2017 18:47)
i am starting to like macron, his ideas to streamline the french state sound appealing and finally a guy with the balls to state the real problem in africa
overpopulation
"create a structured civilization"
i dont agree on this however, thats something people have to build themselves
if we can help with that fine, but its not our job to do it for them and it wouldnt work anyway
africa has to help itself first


Foreign countries (west, asia, and even african countries) spreading wars, chaos, or "coups" in order to be able to collect the natural ressources and/or territories is a fact.

Those (african) countries have lower chance to "build themselves".
For France, Germany and whole Europe btw... It would be a way better to help them to start a full democratic process, and to keep the peace as much as possible. Not to mention they could be very strong allies in the future.

Some badasses countries arround far enough to not be affraid of refugees could prefer a worse solution...
- weakening europe
- taking over ressource

because it's so easier to destroy & destabilize than build.

Nothing new.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jul 11 2017 12:21pm
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