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old ground, but here we go again, and give me a little latitude here, i.e. i am going to be brutal again:
it makes no sense to me for the west bank to exist. it should have been invaded and taken over from day one. instead of an occupied territory Israel should have claimed it by right of conquest, and honestly, people (the world) would have been over it decades ago.
I don’t want to live with extra 5 millions Palestinians. We have nothing in common and they won’t be “minority”. Any minority over 30% is becoming a problem. We have the same sh*t with Haredi Jews which I have nothing in common with except that our mothers happened to be Jewish. So no thank you.
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The problem as I see it is that for reasons unknown to me, sentiment has been created in Israeli discourse whereby it is ok to continuously claim more land which is not Israeli. My view is while such sentiment exists and is acted upon, Israel will never be safe from consequences (terrorist attacks, war etc).
Sentiment only in part of the public. I do not support it. And as they continue with their settlements, they also like myself, don’t want them Palestinians in Israel. My point is that those support the settlements only support the settlements and not the annexation of West Bank because they don’t want them arabs. So either their approach is that eventually the Palestinians will leave or they simply don’t care because god is on their side. In any way it’s lunacy to me.
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It makes no sense to me for Israel to UN-occupy the Westbank. it is a landlocked region which would undoubtedly fall into civil war if Israel pulled out. However, it makes no sense to me that Israel continues to do in the Westbank what it does - building new homes. My view is - something has to change but Israels current policies are not in the right direction, and there is no evidence the policies will be reversed, ergo war for decades to come.
I agree with that. Something do need to change and as I wrote before, a change in the Palestinianism is required alongside Israel stopping the settlements in the west bank.
Regardless, Israel should continue control over the west bank until
Them Palestinians will be ready to live in peace.
Look, I get it. You can’t accept putting blame on Palestinians because you see the wheel starting at Israel doing wrong and the Palestinians “resist” to that wrong. My point is that if those Palestinians want peace, they need to accept the unfairness of the world and f*king get over it. Go build something with what you have. Denounce your refugee status for starters and later on disarm and build something. Since they are not doing that and are still fighting the 100 years war against Zionism, I conclude that they don’t want a country if it’s not on my expense.
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Hamas is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things noting as more people are evicted and new jewish homes are built another Hamas will replace the original Hamas.
welcome your thoughts.
Hamas are the Palestinians. They are not aliens. Their only difference from other Palestinian organisations is the way they choose to act. That’s why I keep writing Palestinianism because it’s imbedded in their ideology. Their identity. What are Palestinians without Israel ? Not clear. Their identity is formed over them being refugees.
They need to think different. They need their own Theodor Herzl and Ben-Gurion rather than Sinwar or Arafat…