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Aug 18 2022 11:26am
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they tell you that you better plead guilty or else you'll do more jail time based on the evidence they show you on a table in front of your eyes lol.


Yeah Russia hoax was all evidence and they got Trump didn't they
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they tell you that you better plead guilty or else you'll do more jail time based on the evidence they show you on a table in front of your eyes lol.


Of course, the FBI is always above-board, they would never do something like that, right?

The "evidence" that we read about has been "processed". Whether you get it from wikipedia or from google searches. Stuff that is deemed to be fit for public consumption tends to have been sanitized.

There is no real way for us regular people to know for sure what she really did. It's all FBI's word.
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Aug 18 2022 11:30am
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Yeah Russia hoax was all evidence and they got Trump didn't they


no, as i stated at the time the only way the Kremlin would have left a paper trail (if they ever even talked to Trump personally, which they almost certainly didn't) was if they wanted Trump in prison, which they didn't.

i called it a witch hunt from the start for that very reason, it was going to be a long and expensive process to prove nothing about Trump and at best get some of those around him put behind bars only to be replaced the next day because the only people with anything on them would be nobodies.

this is espionage 101, you never talk to who u want to get the message to, and you dont even talk to someone who talks to him. you drop a line and hope but dont expect it will run up the line.

by comparison Biden's connections to Ukraine via his son were far more direct, but even there we can see a place for plausible deniability and if need be the chance for Hunter to take all of the blame if need be, which hasnt even arisen yet.

but as to some throwaway chick that was barely within a stone's throw of Trump personally, i'm sure there was plenty of available evidence that they could use to credibly coerce a confession. no need for car batteries and pliers.

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Of course, the FBI is always above-board, they would never do something like that, right?

The "evidence" that we read about has been "processed". Whether you get it from wikipedia or from google searches. Stuff that is deemed to be fit for public consumption tends to have been sanitized.

There is no real way for us regular people to know for sure what she really did. It's all FBI's word.


just because someone is a known cheater doesnt mean they always cheat. context is important here.

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just because someone is a known cheater doesnt mean they always cheat. context is important here.


Do you know for sure what she did?
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Do you know for sure what she did?


i know as much about what she did with 100% certainty as you do about if the FBI coerced her to confess.
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i know as much about what she did with 100% certainty as you do about if the FBI coerced her to confess.


I never claimed that. I merely hinted at it as a possibility. Btw, are you admitting that you do not know for sure what she really did and you are basing everything on the FBI's word?
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Aug 18 2022 11:38am
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I never claimed that. I merely hinted at it as a possibility. Btw, are you admitting that you do not know for sure what she really did


yes.

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and you are basing everything on the FBI's word?


no.
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no.


Let's not lie.

You: "they (the FBI) tell you that you better plead guilty or else you'll do more jail time based on the evidence they show you on a table in front of your eyes lol."

Sounds like you believe the feds' word when they accused her of wrongdoing.
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Aug 18 2022 11:42am
foreign agent with expensive lawyers pleads guilty in face of overwhelming evidence

shills: "the FBI coerced her, i'm just saying this could all just be a conspiracy. nothing that happens in the real world matters any more."

common sense, critical thinking, and researching facts are the mortal enemies of the trump cult, lol.
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no, as i stated at the time the only way the Kremlin would have left a paper trail (if they ever even talked to Trump personally, which they almost certainly didn't) was if they wanted Trump in prison, which they didn't.

i called it a witch hunt from the start for that very reason, it was going to be a long and expensive process to prove nothing about Trump and at best get some of those around him put behind bars only to be replaced the next day because the only people with anything on them would be nobodies.

this is espionage 101, you never talk to who u want to get the message to, and you dont even talk to someone who talks to him. you drop a line and hope but dont expect it will run up the line.

by comparison Biden's connections to Ukraine via his son were far more direct, but even there we can see a place for plausible deniability and if need be the chance for Hunter to take all of the blame if need be, which hasnt even arisen yet.

but as to some throwaway chick that was barely within a stone's throw of Trump personally, i'm sure there was plenty of available evidence that they could use to credibly coerce a confession. no need for car batteries and pliers.


As we know all of this was quite a thing at the time, dems placed all their bets on the "Russia connection" accusations. Why did the Russian agent get served such a low sentence if there was plenty of evidence?

I think the evidence was paper thin, the accused Russian "agent" pleaded guilty cuz she was told "or else" and the feds were happy with it cuz now they had a "guilty Russian agent" to add to the Russia hoax file.

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