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(I) Everything has its cause.

From (I), we can conclude that:
(i) or there is a succession of infinite causes
(ii) or there is a first cause

(i) is not possible in a finite time, so:

(II) There is a first cause.

How is this first cause?
The movement is the passage of something in potency to act by someone that is in act. Example: wood is fire in potency and fire is fire in act (duh).
When the fire gets in touch with wood, it turns into fire in act. Nobody can give what they don't have. I can't teach you how to play guitar if I don't know how to play it, doesn't it sound obvious? So:

(III) The first cause must be everything in act. Being is his very essence.

From (III), we can conclude that He must be the love itself, the intelligence itself and the beauty itself. He must be a personal entity too: how could He not have it in his essence if we, mere mortals, have?


Aristotle came to that conclusion before Christ. This matches with the God of jews and christians:

Exodus 3:14 - God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites:‘I am has sent me to you.’"


John 8:28 - So Jesus said to them, “When the Human One is lifted up, then you will know that I Am. Then you will know that I do nothing on my own, but I say just what the Father has taught me.

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Quote (Marcelorr @ Jun 5 2020 08:55pm)
(I) Everything has its cause.
From (I), we can conclude that:
(i) or there is a succession of infinite causes
(ii) or there is a first cause
(i) is not possible in a finite time, so:
(II) There is a first cause.
How is this first cause?
The movement is the passage of something in potency to act by someone that is in act. Example: wood is fire in potency and fire is fire in act (duh).
When the fire gets in touch with wood, it turns into fire in act. Nobody can give what they don't have. I can't teach you how to play guitar if I don't know how to play it, doesn't it sound obvious? So:
(III) The first cause must be everything in act. Being is his very essence.
From (III), we can conclude that He must be the love itself, the intelligence itself and the beauty itself. He must be a personal entity too: how could He not have it in his essence if we, mere mortals, have?
Aristotle came to that conclusion before Christ. This matches with the God of jews and christians:
Exodus 3:14 - God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites:‘I am has sent me to you.’"
John 8:28 - So Jesus said to them, “When the Human One is lifted up, then you will know that I Am. Then you will know that I do nothing on my own, but I say just what the Father has taught me.


This is why a lot of people see philosophy as unproductive. You just played a bunch of word games to mask that you are just rehashing an already debunked argument.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ 5 Jun 2020 23:03)
This is why a lot of people see philosophy as unproductive. You just played a bunch of word games to mask that you are just rehashing an already debunked argument.


Wouldn't it be easier if everyone respected each person's opinion and belief?
The greatest Christian Jewish commandment and I believe that it fits all religions:
Law of Love
Love God above all things and love your neighbor as yourself! :love: :hug:
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Wouldn't it be easier if everyone respected each person's opinion and belief?
The greatest Christian Jewish commandment and I believe that it fits all religions:
Law of Love
Love God above all things and loveyour neighbor as yourself! :love: :hug:


Which God?

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Quote (addone @ 6 Jun 2020 08:34)
Which God?


The one inside you.
Your purest feelings of love.
Their ethical attitudes towards others.
His moral conduct unblemished.
Its extreme strength that it does to control our Imperfections.
The Kingdom of God is within each one of us. :hug:
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Math is unbias. Assign each letter in the alphabet its corresponding number. a=1, z=26. Add up each letter & you'll get the value for every phrase, word or sentence. Reality like a cellphone is now an image whose result is of an encoding sequence.
This unbiased value system, not limited to any specific value system reveals an intelligent designer behind all speech & everything now manifest in a reality reliant on lettering, writing/numbering -the same principle value system as technology(encoding). Unfortunately this intelligent designer(s) is an external god that has enslaved humanity through germ war-fare since the dawn of existence, in particular via parasitic yeasts or the candida all have in their body (medical fact).

The Internal god of knowing thyself & being of the pineal gland (sun-light) is christ & seeks to be free of a deceitful biological organism (devil) that avoids it by perpetuating society into a material based existence of slavery, fear, pain, & ultimately death by blight & or white light -the corruption of the soul via germs & strange frequencies un-natural.that perpetuate or cultivate them. Any & or all pleasure with regard to it is of a drunken deceitful nature.

To "Clean" everything but leave the credit card touch pads filthy If alcohol killed germs especially "viruses" then when one drinks it the organism should go away. It's all a huge scam by a corrupt reality & authority. Wearing masks cultivates germs by blocking proper air flow, reducing circulation & positive UV from sunlight.

The evil tactic has always been induce fear then use that fear to increase the very thing one ought to be afraid of. The unbias math cuts through all the bullshit & lies, the end result is always the intended one. The hypocrisy reveals the truth that is now corruption & corona mind control flexing of the masses by a powerful destructive intelligence dangling humanity as a puppet to its hive mentality of ill-will as a means to feast upon it if not refine it's control over it. A bunch of towering 'iron' 3,4, & 5g technology & frequencies bending humanity to it's will is literally a sick artificial joke.
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The truth is now admitted that Jesus had two children with Mary Magdalene and got exiled in France (=Gaul) with Ponce Pilate assignated to have a watch on him.
Most of chirstians, the real first ones, were coming from Gaul. Thanks.


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Quote (addone @ May 23 2020 08:38pm)
You speak as if you are one of the childeren of Atom (Fallout reference)


There is an adam that is good, there is an atom that is bad. That which destroys like a mushroom cloud of death is that which I am not.

One can worship radiation, one can worship Ra. When one worships ra one is without worship as one does not bend their knee to a friend, for that is to bend to baal.

Ba-rium ALuminnum & garbage reigning from the sky to prevent you from seeing with your only eye. Hiding in Plane sight.

The machines score-ch the sky to block out positive energy & keep you as a slave and food source - the mtrix has you.
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