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Jul 8 2017 08:28am
Quote (fender @ 8 Jul 2017 16:00)
look how desperate and triggered you are. i can show you at least TWO posts in this subforum in which i clearly state that i denounce these idiots who are just in it for the violence. show me one where i have sympathy for those morons. oh right, you can't, you're just a butthurt little afd muppet...

in fact, i think they are clearly hurting the whole cause (which is showing our politicians that we do NOT all agree with their capitalist globalist agenda) - because they give simple-minded propagandists like you, who can't distinguish between protesters and thugs, a reason to dismiss the message (not that you wouldn't have found one either way).
furthermore, they are also hurting the individuals directly impacted by their brainless actions (the owners of those cars, houses, shops...).

also, that stupid old "they don't distinguish themselves from the bad ones - argument" (the same one you use to justify your hate for moderate muslims) is idiotic. did you distinguish and distance yourself from breivik? seriously, your intellectually lazy attempts to blame the whole left for these idiots is pathetic, why don't you go out on the streets and lead a counter protest, one against violence, i haven't seen you distinguish yourself from these idiots, you thug sympathiser... hahaha...


you talk about lazy attempts to put the blame elsewhere? i dont recall attending the same events breivik did so what the fuck are you even talking about
so much for desperate, you are comparing sympathisers that are on the streets together at the same time with violent extremists, ignoring police warnings to stay away from them, with me and some white supremacist terrorist a thousand miles away? hahahaha
seriously?

nice job once again sticking with your "but....but the right" narrative

i know that armchair philosophers like you dont care, but i do and i am triggered when my home city is turned into a warzone
while our own politicians from the green and left party are cheering for them, social democrats dont give the slightest fuck and practically sacrificed that district and its people with a pathetic de-escalation strategy for their fellow socialists
not to mention that it literally makes me sick to know that (knowing how many deranged leftists the university harbors) its possible that i might as well sit right next to one of them on monday, the same guys who tried to kill people

why i dont lead a counter protest? i dont exactly feel like getting my head smashed in by antifa, while the state does nothing, sorry
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Jul 8 2017 08:43am
Quote (ampoo @ 8 Jul 2017 15:28)
you talk about lazy attempts to put the blame elsewhere? i dont recall attending the same events breivik did so what the fuck are you even talking about
so much for desperate, you are comparing sympathisers that are on the streets together at the same time with violent extremists, ignoring police warnings to stay away from them, with me and some white supremacist terrorist a thousand miles away? hahahaha
seriously?

nice job once again sticking with your "but....but the right" narrative

i know that armchair philosophers like you dont care, but i do and i am triggered when my home city is turned into a warzone
while our own politicians from the green and left party are cheering for them, social democrats dont give the slightest fuck and practically sacrificed that district and its people with a pathetic de-escalation strategy for their fellow socialists
not to mention that it literally makes me sick to know that (knowing how many deranged leftists the university harbors) its possible that i might as well sit right next to one of them on monday, the same guys who tried to kill people

why i dont lead a counter protest? i dont exactly feel like getting my head smashed in by antifa, while the state does nothing, sorry


the excuses of a true beta... ofc...

also, our own politicians cheering for "them" is yet again the dishonest and desperate attempt to make those violent thugs representatives of the whole "left" - so you have a "reason" to bash something you don't agree with - none of our politicians cheer for the rioters, your alternative facts may work in your little echo chamber, but not here... that's as obvious as it is pathetic and ofc just factually wrong but hey, don't let facts get in the way of your hate, kid...

just fyi, the peaceful protesters didn't go there because of the violent idiots, but because of the g20 meeting - the thugs just happen to be there for the same event, but obviously their motivation is to be violent and destroy things. i know you don't care if it helps your simplistic narrative but hey, i thought i'd let you know anyway...

This post was edited by fender on Jul 8 2017 08:45am
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Jul 8 2017 08:47am
Quote (ampoo @ 8 Jul 2017 15:22)
excuse me?


They aren't trying to induce terror in the population to achieve a political goal -> they aren't terrorists.

They are however uncivilized, intolerant criminals, and I hope they are properly punished for their actions.
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Jul 8 2017 09:11am
Quote (fender @ 8 Jul 2017 16:43)
the excuses of a true beta... ofc...

also, our own politicians cheering for "them" is yet again the dishonest and desperate attempt to make those violent thugs representatives of the whole "left" - so you have a "reason" to bash something you don't agree with - none of our politicians cheer for the rioters, your alternative facts may work in your little echo chamber, but not here... that's as obvious as it is pathetic and ofc just factually wrong but hey, don't let facts get in the way of your hate, kid...

just fyi, the peaceful protesters didn't go there because of the violent idiots, but because of the g20 meeting - the thugs just happen to be there for the same event, but obviously their motivation is to be violent and destroy things. i know you don't care if it helps your simplistic narrative but hey, i thought i'd let you know anyway...


that statement is simply false, you seem to be living under a rock
so its an alternative fact when green party and left party politicians from hamburg turn up in television and openly say that the police turned the peaceful "welcome to hell" demonstration into a riot?
you have me laughing big time right now

so pathetic, as well as your ridiculous arrogance
of course its a "beta excuse" to not confront rioters that throw paving stones at people, coming from a guy who never makes a point himself, is only here for namecalling and ignoring facts they dont like
aside from the fact that this shouldnt happen in the first place

Quote (zarkadon @ 8 Jul 2017 16:47)
They aren't trying to induce terror in the population to achieve a political goal -> they aren't terrorists.

They are however uncivilized, intolerant criminals, and I hope they are properly punished for their actions.


if it were only riots yes, but the same people do more than that, especially before the summit
tampering private cars of police officers, sending death threats to hotels that would host politicians, to name just two things
isnt that inducing terror in the population?

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Quote (ampoo @ 8 Jul 2017 16:11)
that statement is simply false, you seem to be living under a rock
so its an alternative fact when green party and left party politicians from hamburg turn up in television and openly say that the police turned the peaceful "welcome to hell" demonstration into a riot?
you have me laughing big time right now

so pathetic, as well as your ridiculous arrogance
of course its a "beta excuse" to not confront rioters that throw paving stones at people, coming from a guy who never makes a point himself, is only here for namecalling and ignoring facts they dont like
aside from the fact that this shouldnt happen in the first place



if it were only riots yes, but the same people do more than that, especially before the summit
tampering private cars of police officers, sending death threats to hotels that would host politicians, to name just two things
isnt that inducing terror in the population?


haha... look how "cheering for them" (an alternative fact, yes) suddenly becomes "made statements that blamed the escalation on the police" (source?)...
you exposed your own dishonest narrative already... too easy really...

This post was edited by fender on Jul 8 2017 09:20am
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Jul 8 2017 09:21am
Quote (ampoo @ 8 Jul 2017 17:11)
that statement is simply false, you seem to be living under a rock
so its an alternative fact when green party and left party politicians from hamburg turn up in television and openly say that the police turned the peaceful "welcome to hell" demonstration into a riot?
you have me laughing big time right now

so pathetic, as well as your ridiculous arrogance
of course its a "beta excuse" to not confront rioters that throw paving stones at people, coming from a guy who never makes a point himself, is only here for namecalling and ignoring facts they dont like
aside from the fact that this shouldnt happen in the first place



if it were only riots yes, but the same people do more than that, especially before the summit
tampering private cars of police officers, sending death threats to hotels that would host politicians, to name just two things
isnt that inducing terror in the population?


Not on "the population". I know what they've been doing an it's indeed unacceptable, but it's more equivalent to random hate crimes targeted at specific minorities, or threats to mafias threatening businesses, sports refs, etc. Would you label those as terrorist acts? To me they are different.
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Jul 8 2017 09:29am
Quote (fender @ 8 Jul 2017 17:19)
haha... look how "cheering for them" (an alternative fact, yes) suddenly becomes "made statements that blamed the escalation on the police" (source?)...
you exposed your own dishonest narrative already...


publicly making these statements is openly supporting those people and "cheering" for them, you are just trying to play with words when you are out of arguments :lol:
do the names kipping and van aken ring a bell? if not check them out, those two are just two examples of degenerates that secretly wish to be there with their fellow socialists

n24 and ntv television also provided many statements going in the same direction



and the organisers of the largest protest in the entire city openly say that the "black block" is welcome

you will dodge anyway though.....too easy indeed

Quote (zarkadon @ 8 Jul 2017 17:21)
Not on "the population". I know what they've been doing an it's indeed unacceptable, but it's more equivalent to random hate crimes targeted at specific minorities, or threats to mafias threatening businesses, sports refs, etc. Would you label those as terrorist acts? To me they are different.


its a matter of personal interpretation i guess, but mafia gangsters are terrorizing others for their profit, so i would include them

This post was edited by ampoo on Jul 8 2017 09:31am
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Fun times

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What is your point?
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Quote (stimpy6298 @ Jul 8 2017 11:44am)
What is your point?


It also looks like the picture was taken with a potato.
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