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Jun 24 2017 10:05am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 24 2017 11:03am)
its not. But the tax cuts aren't the part that is not libertarian.


I don't agree with libertarian fiscal policy in general but if Republicans actually followed it I wouldn't be criticizing them.
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Jun 24 2017 10:09am
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 24 2017 12:05pm)
I don't agree with libertarian fiscal policy in general but if Republicans actually followed it I wouldn't be criticizing them.


You were a walking billboard for this type of big government democrat-republican for years. Hes massaging trumps feet as we speak.

But thats besides the point.

If the leftists want to attack the spending too much part i'm totally on board.
Instead its the hokey eat the rich, tax breaks are evil narrative.
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Jun 24 2017 10:15am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 24 2017 11:09am)
You were a walking billboard for this type of big government democrat-republican for years. Hes massaging trumps feet as we speak.

But thats besides the point.

If the leftists want to attack the spending too much part i'm totally on board.
Instead its the hokey eat the rich, tax breaks are evil narrative.


Huh?

Throughout my various political changes I've always maintained a sense of fiscal conservatism and social conservatism. That's part of the reason I voted for Hillary, because her plan added less to the debt, and social issues just get thrown to the unelected Supreme Court.
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Jun 24 2017 10:21am
ahaha, triggered trumpologists defending taxbreaks - even if they fail completely, and all that while claiming to be libertarians, you couldn't make this shit up... hilarious.
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Jun 24 2017 10:21am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 24 2017 12:09pm)
Instead its the hokey eat the rich, tax breaks are evil narrative.


not to mention any proposed spending cut is also treated as evil and apocalyptic.
Slashing an extremely wasteful bureaucracy that spends its money on things like crony marinas and "administrative costs' is cast as starving old people and ending meals on wheels.

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Huh?

Chris Christie.

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Throughout my various political changes I've always maintained a sense of fiscal conservatism and social conservatism. That's part of the reason I voted for Hillary, because her plan added less to the debt, and social issues just get thrown to the unelected Supreme Court.

that hillary would appoint.. ending the 2nd amendment and whats left of the freedom of association as we know it, among other things.
But sure thats one way to rationalize voting for Hillary Clinton as a so-called conservative.

Higher taxes to pay for wildly increasing government programs.
So conservative. much wow.
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Jun 24 2017 10:22am
Quote (fender @ Jun 24 2017 12:21pm)
ahaha, triggered trumpologists defending taxbreaks - even if they fail completely, and all that while claiming to be libertarians, you couldn't make this shit up... hilarious.


wow a libertarian defending tax breaks? how compromising!
n1 heinrich. you got me.
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Jun 24 2017 10:23am
Quote (cambovenzi @ Jun 24 2017 12:03pm)
its not. But the tax cuts aren't the part that is not libertarian.


This hit the nail on the head.

Rep's are too chickenshit to cut anything that would make a difference in the nondiscretional spending.
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Jun 24 2017 10:24am
Quote (cambovenzi @ 24 Jun 2017 17:21)
ending the 2nd amendment


didn't obama already do that? heard that same tune for 8 years...

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Jun 24 2017 10:26am
Quote (fender @ Jun 24 2017 12:24pm)
didn't obama already do that? heard that same tune for 8 years...


No. He 'only' attempted to infringe on parts of it.
Hillary Clinton refused to recognize the constitutionally recognized individual right to gun ownership at all, and would have appointed people to the supreme court to match.
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Jun 24 2017 10:31am
Quote (cambovenzi @ 24 Jun 2017 17:26)
No. He 'only' attempted to infringe on parts of it.
Hillary Clinton refused to recognize the constitutionally recognized individual right to gun ownership at all, and would have appointed people to the supreme court to match.


ah i see, thanks for clarifying. just one more question, would she have done that before starting a nuclear war with russia or after it? not quite sure about the timeline...
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