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Damn obamas economy is great.

Let me know when republicans have gotten anything done

Quote (Goomshill @ 22 Jun 2017 14:54)

Yeah no, the current boom is driven by anticipation for Trump's big promised stimulus package, and thats also the reason the market hiccups when big enough Russiaburger stories make it sound like there's a chance he'll get dethroned it can drop

Quote (excellence @ Jun 22 2017 11:55am)

yeah yeah now you're calling the washington post, which you praised repeatedly in recent months, 'retarded trump cultists' :rofl: well done you're firmly in the #resist cult, enjoy your stay

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Key Republican senators came out against the Senate Republican health care plan on Thursday, and their opposition is enough to defeat the package before a vote.

Sens. Rand Paul, R-Ky., Ted Cruz, R-Texas, Mike Lee, R-Utah, and Ron Johnson, R-Wis., said they would not vote on the Senate Republican plan in its current form.

"Currently, for a variety of reasons, we are not ready to vote for this bill, but we are open to negotiation and obtaining more information before it is brought to the floor," the statement said. "There are provisions in this draft that represent an improvement to our current health care system but it does not appear this draft, as written, will accomplish the most important promise that we made to Americans: to repeal ObamaCare and lower their health care costs."

Paul told reporters on Capitol Hill Thursday that if members who support the bill know they don't have the votes needed, discussion would begin earlier.

"I didn't run on ObamaCare lite," Paul said. "I think we can do better than this --my hope is not to defeat the bill, but to make the bill better."

Paul added: "Now the discussions begin -- I think it could take longer than a week."

Cruz acknowledged that he had not yet had "the opportunity" to fully review the bill in its entirity, but said "there are components that give me encouragement and there are also components that are a cause for deep concern."

“I have been clear from day one that I want to get to yes,” Cruz told reporters on Capitol Hill Thursday. “Nobody has fought harder against ObamaCare in the Senate than I have, but we have to actually have legislation that fixes the underlying problem.”

Cruz said the current draft doesn’t do “nearly enough,” and would be a “disaster politically.” Cruz said that key components to “get everyone to yes” are lowering premiums, and giving the states flexibility.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/22/senate-health-care-bill-4-key-republicans-come-out-against-gop-plan.html

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/23/politics/dean-heller-health-care/index.html

Ouch.

Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Jun 23 2017 09:34pm)

After months of calling russian interference in the election "fake news" trump is now admitting it and blaming it on obama.

Just out: The Obama Administration knew far in advance of November 8th about election meddling by Russia. Did nothing about it. WHY?

I bet he forgot saying... Russia talk is FAKE NEWS put out by the Dems, and played up by the media, in order to mask the big election defeat and the illegal leaks!

And he also forgot that he said The Democrats had to come up with a story as to why they lost the election, and so badly (306), so they made up a story - RUSSIA. Fake news!

Can't call it fake news and blame it on obama at the same time donnie boy. But then again you recently blamed the guy that you originally claimed was responsible for comey's firing after admitting later that you did it on your own because of the russia story. So it's not like you're really thinking these things through.

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One of the biggest lies Donald Trump has told is that he saved jobs from being shipped overseas, before even taking office.

It’s a high bar to reach, given the regularity with which he lies about everything from the relatively mundane and easily debunked — like where President Barack Obama was born, to the far more dangerous ones, like whether he tried to shut down the FBI’s investigation into Russia.

But when Trump claimed credit in December for negotiating a deal with the HVAC company Carrier to keep its factory jobs in Indiana, Carrier quickly proved him the sucker in that “negotiation” — and now more than 600 workers in Indianapolis, who will be laid off starting next month, are the unfortunate losers.

As CNBC reports, Carrier received “up to $7 million in incentives” in exchange for agreeing to employ at least 1,069 workers for the next decade. But only 730 of those jobs are manufacturing jobs, which are the exact jobs Trump claimed to have saved. The rest of the jobs, CNBC writes, “are engineering and technical jobs that were never scheduled to be cut.”

Of course, that’s not what Trump boasted about when he took a victory lap in Indiana, claiming to have saved more than a thousand jobs — at least — that were scheduled to go overseas.

“That number is going to go up very substantially as they expand this area,” he said in December. “So the 1,100 is going to be a minimum number.”

Trump also left out of his boasting in December that at the time, Carrier said it was still intending to ship another 1,300 jobs — more than he had supposedly “saved” — to Mexico.

At the time, Chuck Jones, president of United Steelworkers 1999 in Indiana, called out Trump’s lies about what exactly he had achieved for workers in Indianapolis. Trump retaliated against Jones on Twitter, of course:

Chuck Jones, who is President of United Steelworkers 1999, has done a terrible job representing workers. No wonder companies flee country!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 8, 2016

Soon after Trump’s attacks, Jones started receiving threatening phone calls but continued to speak out to try to set the record straight about the jobs Trump had claimed to save. Nonetheless, much of the media uncritically parroted Trump’s lies and gave him credit for supposedly forcing Carrier to reverse its plans.

The reality, however, is that despite the millions of taxpayer dollars Pence was able to offer Carrier for a few good headlines for the Trump team, more than 600 workers will be out of the jobs Trump supposedly saved for them.

It’s yet another of Trump’s broken promises, built on ugly lies and taxpayer dollars — and it’s American workers who will suffer because of it.