I was thinking in cultural, rather than ethnic terms. Also, the Ottoman Empire had a caliphate-like claim to rule over the entire Muslim world since they controlled most of the holy sites for centuries:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Caliphate

I generally agree with you that the cultural identity is intact. Arabs rebelled against the Turks with assistance & encouragement from Britain who later betrayed alot of them (think Lawrence of Arabia, British Mandate, etc.).

But it wasn't just caliphate-like, it *was* the legitimate Caliphate with the last Caliph being Abdulmecid II. There's a reason that a whole lot of Arabs want to restore the Caliphate - they only lost it just over 100 years ago.

It's also worth noting that the Caliphate was intact, unbroken, since the genesis of Islam. One could understand why many are upset that it's gone. The destruction of the Caliphate is comparable to the destruction of the Catholic church (which is still going strong)

This post was edited by El1te on Dec 7 2024 04:14pm

Part of me thinks that this is being coordinated so Israel can achieve Greater Israel.

Greater Israel is Palestinian propaganda.

I am not convinced of this, but I am open to being convinced. Revisionist Zionism and what it envisions as Eretz Yisrael seems territorially expansionist, and Israeli leaders (including Netanyahu) have used the map of "The New Middle East" that shows Israel's border being significantly expanded. They've also subjugated Palestinian people and the IDF does not interfere with illegal settlement expansion at best, and outwardly supports and protects it at worst.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Dec 7 2024 11:53pm

Israel has only expanded its territory during defensive wars. Even now after the fall of Syria, when there is an opportunity to claim large areas of land, Israel confined itself to adhering to the 1974 ceasefire lines.

There is no such thing as Palestinian land

This post was edited by Many_Names on Dec 8 2024 12:46am

Ok.
In which date from now you’ll like me to bring up this quote and prove that theory wrong ?
And if it’s wrong, will you abandon the “Zionism is colonialism” way of thinking ?

Illegal settlement expansion is not part of territory exchange immediately connected to operations conducted via defensive warfare.



At any time. I'm not averse to being wrong, as I've been wrong about many things in life.

I didn’t mean that you won’t admit on being wrong.
I just wanted to put a time line to your theory. You are not the only one who thinks this way.

Since there was never a Palestinian state and this land was taken from Jordan, it is our land, and we will build on it as we see fit until an agreement is reached.

Currently, however, the Arabs in Judea and Samaria are preoccupied with internal violence and sacrificing their children for their cause.