That does make sense, however, I would say that charismatic leaders are exceedingly rare. While a new leader will always fill the vacuum, as those leaders are systemically liquidated the quality of those leaders naturally declines upon every succession. Choice 1 is killed, choice 2 takes his place, then choice 3, etc. Eventually you get to the point where the new leader isn't even literate, thus cannot communicate.

It looks to me that Israel got cold feet in Lebanon real quick. Sure, they're doing precision bombings in Beirut, but they are warning people in advance (which is self evidently retarded as their target will then move).

I will also reiterate, in logical agreeance with the present discussion, that Israel has only two options here: destroy their enemies in whole (which is genocide, dead men tell no tales and children can't grow up to hate Israel if they don't exist in the first place) or 2) meekly capitulate and allow themselves to be genocided. The third choice is to continue to kick the can down the road while their enemies become even more united and radicalized, eventually to the point where Israel is weaker.

Fourth option
Israel could start to become a good neighbour and abandon their, not so hidden expansion ideology, and maybe down the road be what Germany is today. A peaceful state and ally to their neighbours.

That's option 2.. capitulation

Germany never stopped wanting to expand by the way.. see the Russia Ukraine war

This post was edited by El1te on Nov 26 2024 08:11pm

I can actually agree with this. I still think that a two state option was somewhat viable before oct 7th, but now theres been too much blood spilled. Israel truly has to go down the warpath and exterminate the rising shia menace in the ME while simultaneously making sure the sunnis stay complacent. Theres only so much a small country like Israel can accomplish on their own, however, and this is why i think they're waiting for Trump to get into office. Apparently the US was about to impose a serious arms embargo on israel if it didn't curtail its ambitions in lebanon (no relevant source)

You are definitely correct in stating that Israel only has two options left. Theyre definitely playing a dangerous game though; theyre really gona have to rely on American arms shipments if they wana see this special tunnel operation through.

Not the same at all. I’m not suggesting Israel stops defending themself im suggesting they don’t bomb all their neighbours constantly and expand their territory illegally and with force. You know, just to start with.

This post was edited by DocPhil on Nov 26 2024 08:40pm

can i can i can i ?

ok here we go : dont be daft, israel has a right to defend itself.

As I clearly wrote that they should be allowed to. But it becomes hard to understand what kind of defending Israel is doing by bombing university hospitals in Syria and commercial airports though?

? future proof defending ?

I guess that makes sense with some of the war crimes we have seen like snipers killing children with headshots in Gaza.

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/t%C3%AAte-%C3%A0-t%C3%AAte/20241029-us-doctor-claims-israeli-snipers-target-child-in-gaza-no-child-gets-shot-twice-by-mistakea

With all due respect, a surgeon might not fully understand how the war machine operates. It’s possible to fire not just two bullets at someone, but hundreds, depending on the weapon being used. If a civilian is shot, it likely means they were in a place they shouldn’t have been. And in the rare case that a child is hit, I’m certain it wasn’t intentional.