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Jun 29 2017 08:43pm
Quote (RiskOfFire @ 30 Jun 2017 03:38)
So like I said, your concern is "gun violence" and not violence. Why isnt this a joint effort to ban guns, ban cars that can travel faster than 55 mph, ban alcohol... it's because the gun control has never nor will ever be about violence, its about control.


I'd say go for self driving cars, due to the network that we have. It should take over when a driver is drunk in the near future, until we've created something more efficient, likely not to be owned by citizens.
This of course is about control. To make life a little bit safer for everyone.

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Jun 29 2017 08:45pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 29 2017 10:34pm)
Where did I ever say I wanted to ban anything?

You're just being stupid. A car is a necessary evil since it's so useful. The potential for misuse is great, but the ratio of use to misuse far surpasses a gun. It's not even a question. Same for alcohol.


One of us is definetly being stupid. How is a gun not useful? It can allow a physically weaker individual to protect themselves from a physically stronger individual attempting to commit crime against them, it can be used to hunt, it can be used for recreation, it can be used for sport, it can be used as a means to amass power in the hands of a population of people as a check against power of a minority elite. How is a car that drives faster than 55 mph legally useful? You are a hypocrite. Everything you've posted is logically flawed, it would be funny if the subject werent an issue where Americans rights are actually being threatened by ignorant and malicious people like you.

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I'd say go for self driving cars, due to the network that we have. It should take over when a driver is drunk in the near future, until we've created something more efficient, likely not to be owned by citizens.
This of course is about control. To make life a little bit safer for everyone.


I am saying that banning guns will not make people safer and logic is on my side. Regardless, safety does not trump the need for liberty, otherwise everyone should be locked in a cage their whole lives.

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Jun 29 2017 08:47pm
Quote (RiskOfFire @ Jun 29 2017 08:45pm)
One of us is definetly being stupid. How is a gun not useful? It can allow a physically weaker individual to protect themselves from a physically stronger individual attempting to commit crime against them, it can be used to hunt, it can be used for recreation, it can be used for sport, it can be used as a means to amass power in the hands of a population of people as a check against power of a minority elite. How is a car that drives faster than 55 mph legally useful? You are a hypocrite. Everything you've posted is logically flawed, it would be funny if the subject werent an issue where Americans rights are actually being threatened by ignorant and malicious people like you.


Again when did I ever say I waneted to ban anything?
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Jun 29 2017 08:48pm
fking ban water man
shit drowns people wtf
such ironclad
much wow
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Quote (RiskOfFire @ 30 Jun 2017 03:45)
One of us is definetly being stupid. How is a gun not useful? It can allow a physically weaker individual to protect themselves from a physically stronger individual attempting to commit crime against them, it can be used to hunt, it can be used for recreation, it can be used for sport, it can be used as a means to amass power in the hands of a population of people as a check against power of a minority elite. How is a car that drives faster than 55 mph legally useful? You are a hypocrite. Everything you've posted is logically flawed, it would be funny if the subject werent an issue where Americans rights are actually being threatened by ignorant and malicious people like you.


Resorting to personal attacks.. alright.. Don't shoot me ;)

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Jun 29 2017 08:55pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 29 2017 10:47pm)
Again when did I ever say I waneted to ban anything?


I don't care, you are clearly arguing points congruent with gun control advocates whether or not you posted those actual words or not. Since you've resorted to such a petty tactic I'll just conclude my intellectual victory.

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Resorting to personal attacks.. alright.. Don't shoot me ;)


Yes ban guns, ban speech you don't like, just ban everything and make the whole world your safe space. If thats the kind of person you want to be then good for you.
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Quote (chemoshots @ Jun 29 2017 09:48pm)
fking ban water man
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Jun 29 2017 08:58pm
Quote (RiskOfFire @ 30 Jun 2017 03:45)
I am saying that banning guns will not make people safer and logic is on my side. Regardless, safety does not trump the need for liberty, otherwise everyone should be locked in a cage their whole lives.


I think liberty can also be given by reducing chances to be shot in your life.. But I should actually refrain somewhat from the subject.. It's not my government ;)
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Quote (RiskOfFire @ Jun 29 2017 08:55pm)
I don't care, you are clearly arguing points congruent with gun control advocates whether or not you posted those actual words or not. Since you've resorted to such a petty tactic I'll just conclude my intellectual victory.

Yes ban guns, ban speech you don't like, just ban everything and make the whole world your safe space. If thats the kind of person you want to be then good for you.


The thing is I actually don't support a gun ban. The reason I'm arguing points that appear to be in line with a gun ban is because your arguments are so terrible and easily discredited. Basically I was just trying to point out that what you're doing is counterproductive. If you're going to act like an idiot while arguing for something I prefer if you not bother arguing in the first place. There are far better arguments against a gun ban than what you are giving and they have the added benefit of you not looking like an idiot when you say them.

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Jun 29 2017 09:03pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 29 2017 10:58pm)
The thing is I actually don't support a gun ban. The reason I'm arguing points that appear to be in line with a gun ban is because your arguments are so terrible and easily discredited. Basically I was just trying to point out that what you're doing is counterproductive. If you're going to act like an idiot while arguing for something I prefer if you not bother arguing in the first place. There are far better arguments against a gun ban than what you are giving.


I suppose that is true from your illogical perspective. Your opinions on my arguments however are equal to garbage from my perspective.
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