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Nov 21 2024 02:09am
Quote (zorzin @ Nov 21 2024 03:51am)
You are seriously out to lunch if you think Israel would survive without the backing of America. It doesn’t make me feel superior at all, its just an observable reality.

There's a reason why the ultimate goal of israel is to bring uncle sam into a war against Iran. (But yall gona have to wait untill the orange man takes office) America also funded the iron dome


I suggest for the Arab world to side with the west rather than Russia, china and Iran. That way they’ll stop whining about the support Israel gets and we might get closer to regional peace.
But as history showed us, the Arab world and Palestinians included keeps making the worst decisions for themselves so the ruling elite will keep its position on the back of the people. Literally, every-Arab- regime.
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Nov 21 2024 02:27am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ 21 Nov 2024 10:09)
I suggest for the Arab world to side with the west rather than Russia, china and Iran. That way they’ll stop whining about the support Israel gets and we might get closer to regional peace.
But as history showed us, the Arab world and Palestinians included keeps making the worst decisions for themselves so the ruling elite will keep its position on the back of the people. Literally, every-Arab- regime.


I don’t understand what’s gained by claiming that Israel wouldn’t survive without the U.S. Even if that were true, how does it affect Israel’s decisions? To me it sounds condescending.
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Nov 21 2024 02:30am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 21 2024 10:27am)
I don’t understand what’s gained by claiming that Israel wouldn’t survive without the U.S. Even if that were true, how does it affect Israel’s decisions? To me it sounds condescending.


It doesn’t..
it just serve their “Israel is a proxy” narrative as for trying to prove that Israelis do not belong here.
It’s like some of our fellow Israelis are saying that “there are no Palestinians” argument.
I mean… ok, and now what?

We’ll still be here for long long time.. haters gonna hate :thumbsup:

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Without the US support, life here will be uncomfortable, and that’s an understatement. We will be a military state. Moreover, it’ll take about a generation or two only to construct the required industry here to support the war machine.

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Nov 21 2024 02:36am
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Quote (WhiteSouned @ 21 Nov 2024 10:30)
It doesn’t..
it just serve their “Israel is a proxy” narrative as for trying to prove that Israelis do not belong here.
It’s like some of our fellow Israelis are saying that “there are no Palestinians” argument.
I mean… ok, and now what?

We’ll still be here for long long time.. haters gonna hate :thumbsup:

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Without the US support, life here will be uncomfortable, and that’s an understatement. We will be a military state. Moreover, it’ll take about a generation or two only to construct the required industry here to support the war machine.


My family, along with some of my relatives, can trace our ancestry back to King David. I’m not sure if you’ve heard about the Shaltiel family, but they’re connected to this lineage as well.

This is our home long before the Arabs left the Arabian peninsula


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Quote (Many_Names @ 21 Nov 2024 11:59)
My family, along with some of my relatives, can trace our ancestry back to King David. I’m not sure if you’ve heard about the Shaltiel family, but they’re connected to this lineage as well.

This is our home long before the Arabs left the Arabian peninsula


At least they don't trace their ancestry to trilobites and claim World Ocean therefore.
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Nov 21 2024 04:51am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 21 2024 03:27am)
I don’t understand what’s gained by claiming that Israel wouldn’t survive without the U.S. Even if that were true, how does it affect Israel’s decisions? To me it sounds condescending.


Quote (WhiteSouned @ Nov 21 2024 03:30am)
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Without the US support, life here will be uncomfortable, and that’s an understatement. We will be a military state. Moreover, it’ll take about a generation or two only to construct the required industry here to support the war machine.


Maybe, just maybe, the American taxpayer wouldnt be too keen on their money being spent on ethnically cleansing a group of impoverished people? Maybe the average American doesnt want to get involved in another forever war in the desert? You have picked a fight with the entirety of the shia world and uncle sam is keeping you in the fight.


"Without the US support, life here will be uncomfortable"
No, you would be destroyed. You will never be able to produce enough arms to sustain a prolonged war against the muslim world; this is a cold hard fact, deal with it.

Ive also never argued that Israelis dont belong to the region. Even yoav gallant is starting to wonder wtf yall are doing.

This post was edited by zorzin on Nov 21 2024 04:52am
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Quote (zorzin @ Nov 21 2024 12:51pm)
Maybe, just maybe, the American taxpayer wouldnt be too keen on their money being spent on ethnically cleansing a group of impoverished people? Maybe the average American doesnt want to get involved in another forever war in the desert? You have picked a fight with the entirety of the shia world and uncle sam is keeping you in the fight.


"Without the US support, life here will be uncomfortable"
No, you would be destroyed. You will never be able to produce enough arms to sustain a prolonged war against the muslim world; this is a cold hard fact, deal with it.

Ive also never argued that Israelis dont belong to the region. Even yoav gallant is starting to wonder wtf yall are doing.


Full of assumptions and fairytales.
Do you by any chance have any idea how great of a service Israel is to the US ? American tax payer lol. So you now know what the average American likes and dislikes.not to mention all the benefits for the US coming from Israel. I have a list of American generals saying that to back me up.
Israel didn’t “picked” a fight. We live peacefully with ourselves and only wish that those oppressed by choice Palestinians to leave us alone. You present the “Shia” world as some kind of a single entity.
First, there is nothing farther from the truth. They can barely unite themselves to pray in Mecca..
Second, i think they’ll be insulted by you.

I said uncomfortable since the support of an ally doesn’t suddenly ends. It’s a process of which in that time Israel can build infrastructure or make ties with other allies. The situation in which Israel will be completely isolated is still far from reach. The American senate just proved it when dropping every single suggestion to stop shipments of arms to Israel. You highly underestimate the Israelis and their capabilities.

To conclude, you may go on and play “what if” as much as you want. Meanwhile , as much as you belittle Israel , we are still here and will still be here for a very long time. It’s part of the game for a small countries to make allies you know…
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Nov 21 2024 11:31am
- Arrest warrants issued for Netanyahu, Gallant and Hamas commander over alleged war crimes.
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Nov 21 2024 11:45am
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- Arrest warrants issued for Netanyahu, Gallant and Hamas commander over alleged war crimes.


i hope there is a trickle down effect and all the IDF barbarians are also eventually arrested to stand trial for their war crimes
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i hope there is a trickle down effect and all the IDF barbarians are also eventually arrested to stand trial for their war crimes


Let me ask you a question.

Do you think Israel is committing less or more war crimes than the US during Iraq War for example?
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