Quote (RiskOfFire @ 30 Jun 2017 01:54)

This is absolute garbage. If you want to reduce "gun violence" then create better economic opportunities for the disadvantaged and better police enforcement against organized crime. If your analogy were less garbage it would say something along the lines of... well breast cancer is common so lets cut off everyone's breasts then we'll prevent breast cancer. It is an absolute matter of fact that guns are not the common denominator in violence in the United States and that things like poverty, gang membership and drugs are.

Quote (Voyaging @ Jun 29 2017 08:24pm)

That might be the single dumbest attempt at statistical analysis I've ever seen.

Literally 0% correct.

The dude literally just took the race statistics and then assumed the political affiliation statistic by race were exactly identical in that sub-population of murderers as they are in the general public.

You should be ashamed of being this much of a retard.

Quote (Knaapie @ Jun 29 2017 09:01pm)

Creating economic opportunities for the poor helps as well. The analogy was more like: a gun is easy to grab, and highly lethal. Tends to actually kill someone instead of knocking him down, even if it's a baseball bat.
If you want to reduce ppl getting killed, that it should involve reducing the lethal methods ppl have on them when they are in public.

Quote (EndlessSky @ 30 Jun 2017 02:07)

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/01/guns_dont_kill_people_democrats_kill_people.html

The real truth is that black Democrats like murdering people. The statistics become even clearer when you break it down to the districts that elected Obama.

Quote (RiskOfFire @ 30 Jun 2017 02:08)

People who are so uneducated as to think a baseball bat isnt a lethal weapon shouldnt be trying to argue about the legality of weapons. You can either lock people in individual padded cells 24 hours a day or you can have people kill eachother. The answer to reducing murder is to create an environment with less animosity, reducing guns will not reduce violence, period. The only reason to strip the right to bear arms from people is to subjugate them.

Quote (RiskOfFire @ Jun 29 2017 06:54pm)

This is absolute garbage. If you want to reduce "gun violence" then create better economic opportunities for the disadvantaged and better police enforcement against organized crime. If your analogy made more logical sense it would say something along the lines of... well breast cancer is common so lets cut off everyone's breasts then we'll prevent breast cancer. It is an absolute matter of fact that guns are not the common denominator in violence in the United States and that things like poverty, gang membership and drugs are.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 29 2017 07:22pm)

reducing the number of guns on the streets would help reduce gun violence, obviously. reducing the number of poors, of drug addicts, of gang members, reducing poverty and social degeneration would also help.

however: outlawing guns would achieve neither of that. those environments where gun violence is rampant would not be tackled too much since all the gangs and thugs would just use illegal guns and give as much fucks as they do right now: zero.


in this sense, outlawing guns would be fighting the symptoms, not the cause.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 30 Jun 2017 03:23)

They're not the common denominator in violence, but they are the single greatest catalyst towards making violent crime a life or death issue.

I agree, let's give better economic opportunities to reduce violent crime.

But the data has shown time and time again, what escalates a violent act to a homicide is access to a gun.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 29 2017 07:25pm)

i agree with that. but making guns illegal would NOT prevent the critical circles (who are responsible for the vast majority of gun-related deaths and injuries) from accessing guns!