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Jun 29 2017 06:24pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 29 2017 09:06am)
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/

Simple statistics.

Inb4 "partisan herba derba"

The truth is partisan, get over it. Bring a statistical argument or go home.


That might be the single dumbest attempt at statistical analysis I've ever seen.

Literally 0% correct.

The dude literally just took the race statistics and then assumed the political affiliation statistic by race were exactly identical in that sub-population of murderers as they are in the general public.

You should be ashamed of being this much of a retard.

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Jun 29 2017 06:29pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Jun 29 2017 08:24pm)
That might be the single dumbest attempt at statistical analysis I've ever seen.

Literally 0% correct.

The dude literally just took the race statistics and then assumed the political affiliation statistic by race were exactly identical in that sub-population of murderers as they are in the general public.

You should be ashamed of being this much of a retard.


I think this analysis is dumber.

Quote (Voyaging @ Jul 18 2015 08:26am)
I'm seriously so sick of hearing about Trump already; he's a fringe candidate who stands no chance at getting the nomination. He's this year's Ron Paul (gets tons of attention on the internet but loses by a landslide).
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Jun 29 2017 06:32pm
Quote (Voyaging @ 30 Jun 2017 01:24)
That might be the single dumbest attempt at statistical analysis I've ever seen.

Literally 0% correct.

The dude literally just took the race statistics and then assumed the political affiliation statistic by race were exactly identical in that sub-population of murderers as they are in the general public.

You should be ashamed of being this much of a retard.


Buahahaha.. Thanks for linking that. Made my day. It is totally cherry picking statistics to make an argument that it's all about race and political preference.

This might be a wake up call:

It's about the number of guns on the streets. That's the main variable to reduce gun violence.
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Jun 29 2017 06:35pm
Quote (RiskOfFire @ Jun 29 2017 07:29pm)
I think this analysis is dumber.


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Jun 29 2017 06:39pm
Quote (RiskOfFire @ Jun 29 2017 08:29pm)
I think this analysis is dumber.


Then you're incorrect.
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Jun 29 2017 06:39pm
Quote (Knaapie @ Jun 29 2017 08:32pm)
Buahahaha.. Thanks for linking that. Made my day. It is totally cherry picking statistics to make an argument that it's all about race and political preference.

This might be a wake up call:

It's about the number of guns on the streets. That's the main variable to reduce gun violence.


What's the benefit of reducing "gun violence" rather than violence? Do you think gangbangers will stop killing eachother if they dont have guns? Once all the guns are gun will you preach the banning of knives and dump trucks? Why should individuals outside of inner cities where "gun violence" is practically statistically non-existant not be allowed to have guns?

Quote (Voyaging @ Jun 29 2017 08:39pm)
Then you're incorrect.


Which analysis is dumber is a matter of opinion. You not understanding that means you being stupid is a fact.

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What's the benefit of reducing "gun violence" rather than violence? Do you think gangbangers will stop killing eachother if they dont have guns? Once all the guns are gun will you preach the banning of knives and dump trucks?


What a stupid statement.

What's the consequences of punching somebody versus shooting them? Are they the same in your book?
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Jun 29 2017 06:45pm
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What a stupid statement.

What's the consequences of punching somebody versus shooting them? Are they the same in your book?


What a stupid question.

Whats the difference between shooting someone and running them over with a dump truck? Are they different in your book?
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Jun 29 2017 06:47pm
Quote (RiskOfFire @ Jun 29 2017 06:45pm)
What a stupid question.

Whats the difference between shooting someone and running them over with a dump truck? Are they different in your book?


Didn't know running somebody over with a dump truck was common in the violent crime statistics.

How about we talk about real issues? Like the fact that by going out of your way to reduce gun violence you will reap a much higher reward than just curbing overall violence.

Thing is, we treat cancer more vigorously than the common cold, and so we should with violence that is far more likely to kill and is far more common than one-off murders with dump trucks.
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Jun 29 2017 06:54pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 29 2017 08:47pm)
Didn't know running somebody over with a dump truck was common in the violent crime statistics.

How about we talk about real issues? Like the fact that by going out of your way to reduce gun violence you will reap a much higher reward than just curbing overall violence.

Thing is, we treat cancer more vigorously than the common cold, and so we should with violence that is far more likely to kill and is far more common than one-off murders with dump trucks.


This is absolute garbage. If you want to reduce "gun violence" then create better economic opportunities for the disadvantaged and better police enforcement against organized crime. If your analogy made more logical sense it would say something along the lines of... well breast cancer is common so lets cut off everyone's breasts then we'll prevent breast cancer. It is an absolute matter of fact that guns are not the common denominator in violence in the United States and that things like poverty, gang membership and drugs are.

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