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Jun 29 2017 06:00am
Quote (Voyaging @ 29 Jun 2017 04:33)
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will not be provided. he keeps lying his ass off without providing any sources...
expect a half-assed pivot at best...
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will not be provided. he keeps lying his ass off without providing any sources...
expect a half-assed pivot at best...


http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/

Simple statistics.

Inb4 "partisan herba derba"

The truth is partisan, get over it. Bring a statistical argument or go home.
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Jun 29 2017 07:09am
Quote (EndlessSky @ 29 Jun 2017 09:06)
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/

Simple statistics.

Inb4 "partisan herba derba"

The truth is partisan, get over it. Bring a statistical argument or go home.


heinrich would love to return to dresden, but hes not welcome there due to being caught reading and reciting certain propaganda that is banned in society there.

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Quote (EndlessSky @ 29 Jun 2017 15:06)
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/

Simple statistics.

Inb4 "partisan herba derba"

The truth is partisan, get over it. Bring a statistical argument or go home.


this calculation is bullshit since it assumes without justification that there is zero correlation between party affiliation and gun crimes once you control for race.


the true issue I see with all the discussions about gun violence in the US is that it mixes shootings by drug dealers and street gangs with shootings committed by "regular" citizens.
truth is, the vast majority of firearms related homicides is committed but the former group of gangs, dealers, people living an irregular, criminal lifestyle. if you outlaw guns, those types of people will just get their guns illegally.
the main factor driving the gun victim numbers up in the US is poverty and gang violence in inner-cities, not gun ownership per se.

Switzerland is a good counterexample: a small, high-density country with tons of guns per capita, yet their gun violence is very low. why? because a) switzerland is a wealthy and safe country with low crime rates in general, and b ) almost every swiss gun owner belongs to the group of responsible, sane persons who you can trust a gun.


btw the high numbers in france dont surprise me at all - the country has large rural, low population density areas that are made for hunting...

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 29 2017 03:27pm
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this calculation is bullshit since it assumes without justification that there is zero correlation between party affiliation and gun crimes once you control for race.


the true issue I see with all the discussions about gun violence in the US is that it mixes shootings by drug dealers and street gangs with shootings committed by "regular" citizens.
truth is, the vast majority of firearms related homicides is committed but the former group of gangs, dealers, people living an irregular, criminal lifestyle. if you outlaw guns, those types of people will just get their guns illegally.
the main factor driving the gun victim numbers up in the US is poverty and gang violence in inner-cities, not gun ownership per se.

Switzerland is a good counterexample: a small, high-density country with tons of guns per capita, yet their gun violence is very low. why? because a) switzerland is a wealthy and safe country with low crime rates in general, and b ) almost every swiss gun owner belongs to the group of responsible, sane persons who you can trust a gun.


btw the high numbers in france dont surprise me at all - the country has large rural, low population density areas that are made for hunting...


Switzerland has no crime because everyone is white.

Democratic cities have all the crime too. You dont want to bring that into the argument.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ 29 Jun 2017 14:06)
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/

Simple statistics.

Inb4 "partisan herba derba"

The truth is partisan, get over it. Bring a statistical argument or go home.


holy shit, you don't even do the simplest of maths, do you? even for a trumptard this is nothing short of embarrassing...

also, let's not forget you STILL haven't managed to provide a SINGLE source for your claim that hundreds of germans get arrested annually for conservative opinions - until you manage to do so or admit it was a LIE, i will have assume that basically every single one of your statements is pure fabrication / imagination. no wonder you support a notorious liar like trump...
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Jun 29 2017 04:52pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 29 2017 06:06am)
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/firearms-related-homicides-democratic-vs-republican-affiliation/

Simple statistics.

Inb4 "partisan herba derba"

The truth is partisan, get over it. Bring a statistical argument or go home.


Actually, really poorly attempted data analytics.
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Jun 29 2017 04:53pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Jun 29 2017 06:52pm)
Actually, really poorly attempted data analytics.


Not an argument.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 29 2017 03:53pm)
Not an argument.


Fitting, since you didn't post statistics.
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Fitting, since you didn't post statistics.


Still not an argument.
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