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Mexico looks far more comfy here.

America looks like a dystopian totalitarian state with zero nature.
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Mexico looks far more comfy here.

America looks like a dystopian totalitarian state with zero nature.


Not sure my idea of comfy involves overflowing sewage surrounding my hut
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Mexico looks far more comfy here.

America looks like a dystopian totalitarian state with zero nature.



Go move to Ethiopia, they have that now
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Mexico looks far more comfy here.

America looks like a dystopian totalitarian state with zero nature.


true, but i doubt 16h workdays, 7 days a week as a farmer are comfy...
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looks quite alright

Quote (fender @ 27 Jun 2017 16:37)
ok... so when i ask you about your generalisations you pretend you don't mean them, just to follow up with the next one?!
so i am part of the "political left", in what way am i ignoring laws to "push my agenda"?

also, you will be surprised to learn that 1% of idiots amongst millions amounts to greater number than 1% idiots amongst tens of thousands... just a thought for the "scientist" in you...


i am using these words, because unfortunately the troublemakers i talk about are the ones that represent the political left in media and sometimes even politics
actually i agree with a lot with left policies in certain areas, but they are a bit quite right now and social democrats are a TERRIBLE job

by the way i thought about you as the typical FDP (liberal party) guy, but i guess i was wrong
that would explain your "but....but the right" rhetoric when you defend your friends

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looks quite alright



i am using these words, because unfortunately the troublemakers i talk about are the ones that represent the political left in media and sometimes even politics
actually i agree with a lot with left policies in certain areas, but they are a bit quite right now and social democrats are a TERRIBLE job

by the way i thought about you as the typical FDP (liberal party) guy, but i guess i was wrong
that would explain your "but....but the right" rhetoric when you defend your friends


first of all, i don't know what kind of media you consume on a regular basis, but the news i read / watch clearly distinguish between the "radical left" and the "political left". and even if yours doesn't, that's hardly an excuse for you to do the same - if you want to act like you're at least somewhat fair.

concerning my own political views, you should have noticed that i'm all over the place when it comes to german parties, which includes even extreme parties like the afd and the linke on singular issues. i always have to compromise heavily in elections, and usually vote for the one i have to make the least amount of compromises for, regarding topics that matter to me.
that was, however, not the point here. i merely wanted to illustrate how simplistic your generalisations were by showing that in the vast majority of cases they DON'T apply to "the left"...
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first of all, i don't know what kind of media you consume on a regular basis, but the news i read / watch clearly distinguish between the "radical left" and the "political left". and even if yours doesn't, that's hardly an excuse for you to do the same - if you want to act like you're at least somewhat fair.

concerning my own political views, you should have noticed that i'm all over the place when it comes to german parties, which includes even extreme parties like the afd and the linke on singular issues. i always have to compromise heavily in elections, and usually vote for the one i have to make the least amount of compromises for, regarding topics that matter to me.
that was, however, not the point here. i merely wanted to illustrate how simplistic your generalisations were by showing that in the vast majority of cases they DON'T apply to "the left"...


practically the same i guess, the standard local and nationwide newspapers, tagesschau news, that kind of stuff
and when you look at how heavily they trivialize left wing outrages (and the migrant crime wave), using the word "activist" actual terrorists.....thats where i find it hard to tell which side they actually are on
you cant deny that the general media is not really diverse

then there is the mess of the social democratic party that is already embracing ultra leftist positions by now, the green party and linke go without saying

so where is the reasonable left or central left nowadays?
like the social democrats back in the days of helmut schmidt for example
the closest one right is merkel ffs, who has turned a former conservative party into a.......chameleon like being

i would actually consider the liberal party, but i will not give my vote to someone who is lying in bed with the green party
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practically the same i guess, the standard local and nationwide newspapers, tagesschau news, that kind of stuff
and when you look at how heavily they trivialize left wing outrages (and the migrant crime wave), using the word "activist" actual terrorists.....thats where i find it hard to tell which side they actually are on
you cant deny that the general media is not really diverse

then there is the mess of the social democratic party that is already embracing ultra leftist positions by now, the green party and linke go without saying

so where is the reasonable left or central left nowadays?
like the social democrats back in the days of helmut schmidt for example
the closest one right is merkel ffs, who has turned a former conservative party into a.......chameleon like being

i would actually consider the liberal party, but i will not give my vote to someone who is lying in bed with the green party


you're making some valid points, but that does not distract from the pivot your post essentially is. again, the vast majority of leftists are NOT idiots vandalising and "terrorising" cities, just like the vast majority of right wingers are not holocaust denying nazi morons who set refugee homes on fire.

ofc the sensationalist media focuses on the "newsworthy" extremes, but that does not justify YOUR generalisations regarding the political left... and concerning your point about media bias, let me point you to of "the right" (since it's ok to imply it's all of them and not just the simple minded idiots), that is completely dictating the narrative in every comment section (with way more bigots than "the left" could ever hope to assemble in order to vandalise / protest any event) on articles concerning immigrants and refugees with their bigotry and moronic generalisations...
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