Wow I just caught up these last three pages pew..pew.. I've been assigned labels that I've never asked for. I was a Christian I was a local Pastor in the United Methodist Church. I was a born again Christian I accepted Christ and took God as my only God and I served with passion, I brought people to the alter I aided in the conversion of five adults and three children in my four and a half years of filling a pulpit. I believe that I brought a message of love and acceptance, of open doors and evangelism. We took teams to soup kitchens and to food pantries. We spread the word of Christ by being nice and accepting, not by judging and badgering. The best evangelism we can do is living a life that reflects positively on Christianity.

Being a Christian isn't a exclusive club, it isn't meant to be difficult to join, in fact it's very easy. The great majority of Christians are not representative of the " real Christians" here on Pard Most real will gladly and honestly answer questions without being condescending and holier-than-thou acting.





My point You try to define a Christian by this behavior or that behavior, but we don't have the ability to see in a person's heart


The wording in the Bible is man's wording, hopefully it's God inspired. But more important is the reading of the Bible and that comes from context. I have always pray before opening the bible to ask for guidance and clear interpretation. As I read hopefully the verse will speak to me and feed me spiritually. Many times the same verse will say different things to me at different times. I'm not saying big shifts in doctrine,




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Wouldn't we have to become more intelligent in some fashion to be able to understand it? and then if we did would we just be raising the bar higher?

Like the hoop snake out west always chasing his own tail.

Hopefully it's God inspired? If it is, you as a non-believer are not saved from damnation.. Why would you want the Bible to be God-inspired?

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My dilemma, right?

Belief isn't a choice... sucks for some people. Personally I'm happy it isn't.

resurrecting the circlejerk!


for whatever reason i just spent a few hours watching the wlc vs krauss debates. part two "is it reasonable to believe god exists?" was especially bad with wlc presenting the god of the gaps in disguise, when in part 1 he accused krauss of arguing against a strawman, saying that the god of the gaps is a caricature. and then devolving into the usual objective morality vs reason shitflinging. kudos to them both for debating instead of picking on intellectual lightweights though *cough dawkins*

my youtube feed needs its own fedora now

that's not a very charitable understanding of what he's usually on about. cosmological arguments are arguments from metaphysical necessity.


vs?

did you watch the debates i was talking about?

seeing that it's WLC it's probs his rehash of that one cosmological argument and his stuff about objective morality being dependent on God and morality's objectivity thus proving God.

The guy is a scam artist of the highest order. He KNOWS the ssues with his arguments. He's been told to his face countless times why they hold no water and yet he continues to present the Kalam Cosmological argument and the argument from morality as 'evidence for God'.

Fucking hate WLC and all his ilk. Christian apologetics is a discipline of intellectual dishonesty and liemongery.