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May 29 2022 07:44pm
Quote (Skinned @ May 29 2022 04:03pm)
You don't seem like a well-regulated militia, bruh.


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Quote (Taschendrache @ May 29 2022 03:09pm)
allright, I should have probably said "developed" country. You got me there. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country - some data on homicide rates (a bit outdated but probably not much has changed...). Yes, Mexico is a bit higher up the ranking even though not that much but looking at the US and its piers really its still ~5x more likely to die of homicide in the US compared to other developed countries/regions such as Canada, Australia or Europe. So really what do all those guns help in that regard? Also it creates much more opportunity for suicides and accidents to have that many guns around (the accidents are not even in the linked statistic - here another related to that: https://www.aftermath.com/content/accidental-shooting-deaths-statistics/ - the victims are mostly children and young adults).





yea but if there is no gun involved the chance to die in that crime is lower than if a gun is involved. Sure, some bad guys will still somehow get their hands on weapons if they so desire but honestly I think if is generally harder to get a gun, the chance to encounter them e.g. during a robbery are smaller, maybe because a robber strapped for cash rather uses a knife instead of a gun that may be hard to come by or expensive on the black market

I dont live in the US and honestly I never saw a real gun in my life lol. I refuse to believe that my chance to "die" from gun violence, no matter due to crime or an accident, is the same as in the US where there are litterally more civilian firearms than there are people. Access creates opportunity. And the fact that despites so many guns there isnt "less" crime than in countries with significantly less guns per capita just in my opinion proves my point that these things dont add anything in terms of safety. They are just a tool for a population that has been scared out of their wits to create some sense of security. But then again, look at those 19 "good guys with guns" doing nothing about the shooter in Texas.


meh............wide open boaders trying to turn it into mexico..................government doing a chit job protecting citizens

wana see real numbers in gun grabber chithole countries?
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered

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They just regurgitate whatever buzzwords suit their narrative on any given day. They really have no fucking clue what they're talking about and just how often they're contradicting themselves.
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Quote (TiStuff @ May 29 2022 06:45pm)
meh............wide open boaders trying to turn it into mexico..................government doing a chit job protecting citizens

wana see real numbers in gun grabber chithole countries?
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered



no 4th reich and vaccine mentioning? but no autopsies allowed!

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Get rid of the degenerate groomers, give the rest guns.
Was ez.
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Quote (TiStuff @ May 30 2022 03:45am)
meh............wide open boaders trying to turn it into mexico..................government doing a chit job protecting citizens

wana see real numbers in gun grabber chithole countries?
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered


ah yes the famous reason that was the root cause for all those gruesome murders was the strict gun laws in all these countries at the time. The well known gun grabber 3rd Reich. Dude, you are making no sense. These are murders commited by dictators from both the right as well as the left and their regimes trying to keep themselves in power and killing for their crazy political or ideological reasons (eradicating any opposition and uprising in their own population or killing people for being minorities, having different religious believes, ethnic backgrounds, etc. among probably many other crazy reasons). That doesnt adress my point at all. Its just a "whataboutism"-argument. It is still a fact that guns dont make the US a safer place - quite the oposite it true. And to pick up your point once more: These kind of things can happen again. Thats what I am actually most worried about when I am looking at the US. Its such a toxic political environment right now.

Also you stated that classic "borders"/"immigration" argument. Sure there are people coming across the borders who are criminals / gang members etc. - but thats probably just a small percentage. The topic is just overly politicized again to rally people and address our lowest insticts such as fear of people we dont know, in some cases racism etc.. Generally immigration is economically benefitial: https://www.oecd.org/migration/OECD%20Migration%20Policy%20Debates%20Numero%202.pdf - though I agree it has to go alongside integration into the existing society/population (learning the language, adapting or at least respecting local, established culture etc.)
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Quote (TiStuff @ 30 May 2022 01:45)
meh............wide open boaders trying to turn it into mexico..................government doing a chit job protecting citizens

wana see real numbers in gun grabber chithole countries?
Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,00 people murdered

Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered

Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered

Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered

Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered

Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered

Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered

Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered

Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered

Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered



I don't understand, all these are "great leader" stuff, and you love this, like Trump the god-emperor (who himself loves great leaders too)
Adolf Hitler sad leftist btw much more sense to my senseless genius
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ah yes the famous reason that was the root cause for all those gruesome murders was the strict gun laws in all these countries at the time. The well known gun grabber 3rd Reich. Dude, you are making no sense. These are murders commited by dictators from both the right as well as the left and their regimes trying to keep themselves in power and killing for their crazy political or ideological reasons (eradicating any opposition and uprising in their own population or killing people for being minorities, having different religious believes, ethnic backgrounds, etc. among probably many other crazy reasons). That doesnt adress my point at all. Its just a "whataboutism"-argument. It is still a fact that guns dont make the US a safer place - quite the oposite it true. And to pick up your point once more: These kind of things can happen again. Thats what I am actually most worried about when I am looking at the US. Its such a toxic political environment right now.

Also you stated that classic "borders"/"immigration" argument. Sure there are people coming across the borders who are criminals / gang members etc. - but thats probably just a small percentage. The topic is just overly politicized again to rally people and address our lowest insticts such as fear of people we dont know, in some cases racism etc.. Generally immigration is economically benefitial: https://www.oecd.org/migration/OECD%20Migration%20Policy%20Debates%20Numero%202.pdf - though I agree it has to go alongside integration into the existing society/population (learning the language, adapting or at least respecting local, established culture etc.)


seems all lefties fall for that trick.
all totalitarianism is on the left. extreme right is libertarian. unless you want to actually believe one goes far right is a "nazi" the one more move right n bam now a libertarian. its the kind of kook chit lefties believe. its high brain washing when a commie thinks they are the opposite of nazism.

the big long list gun grabber history? totalitarianism and atheists. its all documented no matter your excuses.

"Thats what I am actually most worried about when I am looking at the US. Its such a toxic political environment right now. "
(and if your actually paying attention you will notice its the left screaming in the streets Burning Looting and Murdering. The very same people that want to grab them guns)

"borders"/"immigration"
(you ever wonder why they are exempt from the "vaccine")

" but thats probably just a small percentage"
(thats your argument "probably"????)

"The topic is just overly politicized again to rally people and address our lowest insticts such as fear of people we dont know, in some cases racism etc."
(but "probably" not right?)

not surprisingly its this leftie fraud bogus government that is all about gun grabbing. the party of BLM racists, the party of antifa goons, the party of KKK racists, jim crow laws .....the party that fought for slavery and they all rich and white. but i am the one gets called racist.......

i am going to close with.......
people actually believe commies and nazies are opposite of each other. if they cant figure out what bullchit that is how they going to figure out anything?
people actually believe the commies are the far end of the left and nazis are the far end of the right and the titanic struggle of the whole world is between these two ..........thugs and these two thugs are opposite of each other

This post was edited by TiStuff on May 30 2022 07:14am
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Precedent isn't what it used to be bub.
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