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May 3 2022 10:36am
Quote (fender @ May 3 2022 11:08am)
it's not "quicksand" if you don't have corrupt politicians appointing activist judges in order to undermine rights that a significant majority of the population agrees on (!), to pander to a (religious) bigots. by that standard, literally everything could be labeled "quicksand" - even the constitution has amendments as i'm sure you're aware. the fact that it COULD be technically more difficult to overturn it (wonder who prevented this) should not distract us from the fact that the upcoming decision is not legal necessity (although i'm sure the cowardly bigots will do their best mental gymnastics to pretend it is) but political will of a minority at work. oh wait, distracting from that is exactly what you're trying to do there...


The constitution has amendments because they were democratically voted upon and ratified. Those constitutional amendments serve as the bedrock of the law. That is how the American legal process is supposed to work, the legislative branch writes the law, the executive sees it implemented, the courts adjudicate it. Judicial activism is when the courts usurp the power of the legislators to write their own laws. Its not judicial activism for courts to strike down what previous judicial activists conjured up. Thats the opposite of judicial activism. Nor is it "undemocratic". Right in the decision, as its explained by the court itself, the judiciary infringed upon the democratic process by taking a decision away from the people and their representatives. The supreme court is returning the issue of abortion to the democratic process, for better or worse. And this is the natural consequence of the impasse of deadlocked lawmakers given endless deferment on critical issues. They passed the buck and now all the liberals are screaming at the Roberts court as if they're the ones being intemperate
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May 3 2022 10:38am
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science denier strikes again, lol. you ok, buddy? pregnancies are not infectious, and neither is sexual orientation btw. you really have to be on the wrong side of every single issue, huh?


why did i know that you would be triggered ^_^

btw, in case you still didnt get this old memo: jab or no jab, everyone is infectious

so much for the science

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May 3 2022 10:46am
heres my fuckign question

Why the fuck arent democrat states running to loosen and open up abortion laws.

Why arent dem states making laws to ease cro0ss state abortion travel.

The Dems are fucked man your country is fucked.
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May 3 2022 10:50am
Quote (Surfpunk @ May 3 2022 08:42am)
Conservatives: *Scream about activist courts*

Also conservatives: *Praise activist courts when the decision suits them*


If you're inclined to think the original decision was activist, then overturning it really isn't.
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May 3 2022 10:51am
Quote (thesnipa @ 3 May 2022 17:56)
I think the fight to preserve the choice for women to abort is extremely important, my ire is predominately directed towards conservatives fooled into thinking this is an important matter, and on a tertiary level at both democrats and conservatives for buying into this bottom tier bullshit for decades while important issues were sidelined which got us to this deeply divided place of partisan politics. it goes beyond legislation, we turned politics into a heavyweight boxing match where both trade blows but no one ever gets knocked out. we changed "what we all agree on" from "what we can get done since we both agree" to "not important, lets focus only on our disagreement". watching people debate trans bathrooms, abortion, border security, student loan forgiveness, and many other tier 3 issues as a centrist while serious issues dont get addressed at all is mind numbing, i just get to a point where i want to replace humans with robots and watch their family trees forever stunted.


i'm pretty sure you're familiar with my rant about how both parties deliberately distract their voters with culture war bs in order to prevent them from pushing for meaningful change to the system, how extreme partisanship and a lack of real political choice transformed america into a de facto oligarchy, and that it was not an accident. let me again express my confusion that you, despite realising all of this, are so dismissive of the only somewhat meaningful political wing to identify and address those issues, and rather support the architects of this abomination. simply doesn't make sense to me. even IF you think that some of their proposals are too "extreme" or "unrealistic" or whatever, wouldn't it be better than perpetuating and thus actively fortifying the broken, corrupt system?

anyway, we'll see if republicans stop at abortions, i'm pretty certain they won't (as countless discriminatory laws against lgbtq+ people in red states already indicate). it's just a matter of how far they're going to push their eugenics. you'd think that interracial relations was something even they wouldn't touch anymore these days, but then again, i thought the same about abortions years ago. given the new breed of brazen bigots, emboldened and empowered by trump, i wouldn't put anything past them. the loud majority of racist right wing scum in pard for example might not be representative of the party as a whole, but it's still a pretty good indicator as to how rotten the ideology and its proponents really are when they think they are anonymous or amongst their own. ppl like mtg spearheading the party in the public's eye certainly speaks for itself...
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May 3 2022 10:54am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 3 May 2022 18:38)
why did i know that you would be triggered ^_^

btw, in case you still didnt get this old memo: jab or no jab, everyone is infectious

so much for the science


"sEaTbELt oR nO sEaTbELt, eVeRyoNe cAn DiE iN a cAr cRasH!!!1!"

scientific illiterate, lol.
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May 3 2022 10:58am
Quote (Crunkt @ May 3 2022 09:46am)
heres my fuckign question

Why the fuck arent democrat states running to loosen and open up abortion laws.

Why arent dem states making laws to ease cro0ss state abortion travel.

The Dems are fucked man your country is fucked.


Because they are as loose as possible already?

How could a Dem state make it "easier" to cross state lines? You just get in your car and drive...

We have organizations who are working on mailing abortion pills to anyone who wants it and we have organizations that will provide transportation to other states. I think you need to direct your outrage on the red states instead of the blue states here lol.
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May 3 2022 11:03am
Quote (fender @ May 3 2022 11:51am)
i'm pretty sure you're familiar with my rant about how both parties deliberately distract their voters with culture war bs in order to prevent them from pushing for meaningful change to the system, how extreme partisanship and a lack of real political choice transformed america into a de facto oligarchy, and that it was not an accident. let me again express my confusion that you, despite realising all of this, are so dismissive of the only somewhat meaningful political wing to identify and address those issues, and rather support the architects of this abomination. simply doesn't make sense to me. even IF you think that some of their proposals are too "extreme" or "unrealistic" or whatever, wouldn't it be better than perpetuating and thus actively fortifying the broken, corrupt system?

anyway, we'll see if republicans stop at abortions, i'm pretty certain they won't (as countless discriminatory laws against lgbtq+ people in red states already indicate). it's just a matter of how far they're going to push their eugenics. you'd think that interracial relations was something even they wouldn't touch anymore these days, but then again, i thought the same about abortions years ago. given the new breed of brazen bigots, emboldened and empowered by trump, i wouldn't put anything past them. the loud majority of racist right wing scum in pard for example might not be representative of the party as a whole, but it's still a pretty good indicator as to how rotten the ideology and its proponents really are when they think they are anonymous or amongst their own. ppl like mtg spearheading the party in the public's eye certainly speaks for itself...


by who im dismissing i assume u mean democrats, to which i agree.

but by " support the architects of this abomination" what do you mean? support who? support how?
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May 3 2022 11:04am
Quote (thesnipa @ 3 May 2022 19:03)
by who im dismissing i assume u mean democrats, to which i agree.

but by " support the architects of this abomination" what do you mean? support who? support how?


you're dismissive of progressives and support establishment democrats. at least you've been throughout the previous two election cycles.
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May 3 2022 11:07am
Quote (fender @ May 3 2022 12:04pm)
you're dismissive of progressives and support establishment democrats. at least you've been throughout the previous two election cycles.


i was dismissive of Bernie for 2 reasons. 1, didnt think he could beat Trump in a general election. 2, didnt think he would get any of his platform through legislation if he did somehow beat trump.

i supported biden in the democratic primary for 1 reason, he could beat trump. and did.

this harkens back to what i said earlier, what i want and what i think are realistic are 2 different things. and i try to find a middle ground thats admittedly towards pragmatism and further from my moral and logical beliefs because i prefer incremental change over nothing.

overall my GOAT candidate is and has been Andrew Yang, he's closest to my personal stances on both sides of the aisle by an order of magnitude. and deeply progressive.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 3 2022 11:08am
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