If you have tons of empty space and buildings, why are rent and real estate prices going through the roof and becoming a huge burdern for low-income families?
The reality is that there's a shortage of affordable housing in the metros, and additional demand will only exacerbate the problem. Likewise, the additional consumption caused by having additional people will of course be felt on commodities which are scarce or have to be imported, like oil or many types of food (e.g. exotic fruits).The threshold for immigration to be "worth it" is far lower in the U.S. than here in Europe due to your much more bare-bones social safety net, but it's still silly to insinuate that immigration is causing no costs or burden whatsoever.

The whole issue has become so damn morally charged in recent years. Many (not all!) lefties have come to claim that any type and quantity of immigration is automatically an economic gain and a cultural enrichment, and that anyone claiming otherwise must be an inhumane racist or nativist. Meanwhile, many on the right have come to see any kind of immigration as a threat and burden and gotten blind to the tremendous benefits it can offer if done right.




Side note: the Club of Rome's neo-Malthusian argument that humanity is approaching the Limits to Growth is having a renaissance due to climate change. If one accepts the premise that there is an upper limit to the amount of greenhouse gas emissions humanity can afford before a collapse of eco-systems is triggered, then people and countries will inevitably end up competing for the remaining carbon budget.

They don't have to measure up. A country's native born population has a right to be there via birth. By contrast, immigration is a choice. Contrary to what many open borders activists claim, there exists no human right to settle in any country of one's choosing.


Simply put, the home grown dregs of society are a problem that each society has to deal with, but there is no reason or obligation to let in the dregs of other societies on top of that. Countries have a right to pick their immigrants, to only accept those who can be expected to fit in and contribute.

Misunderstanding evolution is exactly how fascism works. Evolution is descriptive, not prescriptive. We are humans, not robots propagating our genes. So no, that argument doesn't hold weight and you are actively perpetuating fascist ideologies by arguing for it.

Virtually all immigrants are net contributors. Contrary to conservative lies, immigrants don't get welfare benefits. It's actually incredibly hard for a working immigrant to not be a positive to society.
Immigrants don't get social security until they're full citizens. Also, social security only pays out in proportion to what you put in. I know you're foreign so I don't expect you to understand that part.
The chain-migration argument is also garbage. It's insanely difficult to get approval for family to come in. Often the line is literally DECADES long. Which is why we have so much illegal immigration. And if they are bringing in people via chain migration illegally they aren't going to be people who aren't working, unless they are children maybe.
"assimilation" is poorly defined. It basically just means whatever the person wants to make immigrants look bad.


You are just spouting right-wing talking points with no critical thought behind them. As usual.



What's it like being a piece of shit? Genuinely curious. You really think people risking their lives to cross the border to get a better life are dregs? What a crock of shit.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on May 2 2022 05:29pm

Because big companies are content to let large swaths of houses sit dormant because they pay for themselves with price appreciation while renting a fraction of them to cover maintenence.

We have a massive excess of resources. It's distribution, not amount.

why do you think being born into a particular place or society gives someone the right to be lazy and unproductive?

europeans historically were very fond of open borders and settlings in other countries, why are you opposed to others doing the same?

nah dude, he went to a kink seminar... can't trust him

So what are you trying to say? You are a non-robot that tries to propagate other people's genes? This makes even less sense..



Lol, you are offended. Also, people who had to flee their shithole of a country (which was a shithole because they ruined it) cause they couldn't hack it there are dregs in some sense. They might want to get a better life, however that only makes them dregs who are motivated.

Why do you love immigrants so much anyway? You don't think a nation's priority should be to care for its own citizens first and foremost? Regardless of whether they are contributors or "dregs". You talk as if people who are against immigrants are some kind of evil racists when in fact they simply think that the government shouldn't take on the needy of other nations, as this would divert resources from Americans. It's kind of like a mother who tries to adopt non-biological children by citing, they are really smart and are good people who want to succeed, so now I am going to admit them to my household, feed and clothe them and give them money that I would normally give my own children, when I don't really have a lot of it to spare. If such a mother existed, we would call her insane, yet this is exactly what you are proposing.

when her kids are meth addict brats who sit on fucking halo all day.
somebody has to mow the lawn

And even if that's the case, she should try and help them. Get them a counsellor, get them help. Try to help them play less games and gain valuable skills...etc. Do anything to help her own children, rather than, "fuck it. I am just gonna import some unrelated kids into my home cause my own disappoint me".

But I see that at least you tacitly admit that the kind of government Netflix is proposing is insane. This is a step in the right direction.

This post was edited by JessiWan on May 2 2022 08:31pm

who is they in this scenario?

This post was edited by GodSmiter on May 2 2022 11:07pm