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Mar 1 2022 09:54pm
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 1 2022 10:43pm)
A Russian entrepreneur just put a million dollars on his head, dead or alive.





I mean even in Russia, everyone has seen "War Games". :)

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Mar 1 2022 11:00pm
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Mar 1 2022 11:17pm
is this looking like the USA invading Vietnam?

I saw an article that was suggesting that Russia is running out of fuel to go further into Ukraine

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is this looking like the USA invading Vietnam?




Hardly. South Vietnam asked the US to come.

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hello and i look forward to debating / discussing!
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Quote (Kuggergug @ Mar 1 2022 03:07am)
Game theory is that when one side controls 90% and the other controls 10%, the one with the 10% wins because they basically have nothing to lose. An example of this is in real estate development. A skyscraper project backed by millions of dollars can be put on hold because some dude owns a shack on a tiny slice of the property and wont sell unless you pay millions. The dude has nothing to lose really so he can hold out. Another example is in politics where the poor might hold all the cards because many are jobless so they can easily spent months protesting, marching, rioting and disrupting while the middle class or upper class have jobs and stuff to do. So the poor wind up getting what they want.

In this war, Russia has 10% or so of the world. The rest of the world united against him with like 90%. Game theory says Putin is in control as he really has nothing to lose, especially with crippling sanctions, etc. on him.

Game theory says Putin should start nuking the US immediately and demanding the world kneel. The world has everything to lose and Putin has nothing to lose. Game theory says Biden will respond to nuclear strikes by kneeling and making Putin emperor of earth. It may sound strange but that would be the expected outcome here.

You might think he definitely has something to lose but not after being made a pariah state. Now he has nothing so hes free to nuke and demand to be made god king of earth

The correct play by the west was to not sanction him until hes cut off. Then putin wouldnt nuke because hes still part of the community and has something to lose


Just played catch up on this topc and got to this. I think this is the most relevant post in this topic. while I dont agree with either "Game theory says Putin should start nuking the US immediately and demanding the world kneel." or "Game theory says Biden will respond to nuclear strikes by kneeling and making Putin emperor of earth" but I do agree with : "The correct play by the west was to not sanction him until hes cut off. Then putin wouldnt nuke because hes still part of the community and has something to lose" and, i hesitate to say this as well, the correct play would be not to aid Ukraine militarily (as well as not imposing sanctions) noting both of those things are 1 step closer to serious business.

full disclosure, I am from Ireland, I see Putin as a baddy but the west failed to appreciate and accept Putin's red lines and as that is set to continue, it is likely at this point that things will escalate in some way, outside of Ukraine. I dont care if america has a bigger army, more advanced weapons and more trained soldiers, that is NOT relevant to the discussion. The discussion as I see it is : when will the west bank down, and if they don't, what will be next thing they (we) do which may the trigger Putin to escalate this conflict outside of Ukraine.

TLDR: no one is blameless here, the west needs to take a long hard look in the mirror as what they are currently doing would appear to be adding fuel to the fire.

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Quote (KrWWW @ Mar 2 2022 12:17am)
is this looking like the USA invading Vietnam?

I saw an article that was suggesting that Russia is running out of fuel to go further into Ukraine


They have this 40km column of armor that just stalled out.

The biggest factor to me IMO is that you have a very motivated volunteer fighting force in the Ukraine vs. conscripts in a national military that famously uses sexual violence for discipline in the ranks. There is no contest between the quality of people fighting.

Also Ukrainians are on what Sun Tzu called the Death Ground. They are fighting in a place with no retreat, so they will fight better. This sounds kind of funny but this has been military doctrine for as long as recorded history. Russians have plenty of space to retreat too in the big picture, and it is a viable option to every conscript.

The West could end the invasion now if they offered citizenship to any Russian who surrendered and admittance to the west.
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Mar 2 2022 07:16am
Drones are coming, then Russia will not like it and could do 1 nuclear strike in some unpopulated area to scare everyone.
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Drones are coming, then Russia will not like it and could do 1 nuclear strike in some unpopulated area to scare everyone.




Where are the drones coming... from?
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Mar 2 2022 12:55pm
I hope no, I hope never start any war more and less ww3😔🙏
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