Yes I would.

And if my post wasn't clear enough, let me try and clarify it for you: this thread is NOT about whether covid vaccines will cause ____. It's about not trusting the governments.

This is not a discussion about a scientific problem. Nor am I trying to defend any scientific claim, in other words, I am not trying to prove that vaccines will indeed cause infertility. This is a discussion that deals with people and their intentions. And yes, my contention is that some people have bad intentions and will try and harm you. And guess what? Governments are made up of people. So, can governments be trying to harm you? Absolutely.

Don't lie to me but most importantly don't lie to yourself.

Vaccine didnt kill me thus far. Was fully vaxxed in february with pfizer. Already have a kid prior to vaccine so it would be nice side effect if it made me sterile.

Why is it about trusting the governments at all? Why can't it just be about a virus and a vaccine?

Edit: The governments are just following the science? I know there is your PM to me, but it isn't logical to me.

This post was edited by penguinhero on Sep 5 2021 05:05pm

Darwin wins

Do you agree with me that your precious "objective data by multiple reputable sources" doesn't work when it comes to people and dealing with politics?

Lol, I now know how to wind you up in this forum in the future.

Indeed, and if you do take the vaccines, he will win again.

This wording was from the scientific standpoint of a virus and a vaccine. So you don't have to call it precious, it's just critical thinking.

Rolling out a political policy in response to the science is the next logical step to me. Back to what I was saying: gov't interest is in sustaining a population - you're worth more dead than alive. This goes for anything science related being tied to political interests: vaccines, climate change, stem cell research, whatever.

So no, I don't agree with the latter part of your sentence of coming to people and politics.

Would you agree that scientific data can be used to drive political policy?

Worse. Missouri.